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> 1. Instead of being blocked or shadowbanned by Elon Musk, you can now be blocked or shadowbanned by the Mastodon instance admin Don't pick random instances,

by rakoo 4y ago

> 1. Instead of being blocked or shadowbanned by Elon Musk, you can now be blocked or shadowbanned by the Mastodon instance admin Don't pick random instances, get together with friends and family on a community-owned instance. Or run your own. The whole point of getting away from Twitter is to own the means of communication. You can also get blocked or shadowbanned by nostr relays, and the incentives to run a relay are even worse than for Mastodon > 2. Making connections with other Mastodon instances is non-trivial. Lies, there is literally nothing to do to connect to other instances. Subscribe to an account there and you're plugged. > 3. Exporting your data and connections is not supported on all Mastodon instances. Goes back to point 1: don't go to a generic universal instance. Why so much FUD ? Why the hate ? ActivityPub has real issues, but those are not it (in fact, it's a pretty good indication that you haven't used the network to know what you're talking about). Just like nostr has issues, but if we're going to ditch Twitter and centralized communications, why lie ?

shortrounddev 4y ago
> get together with friends and family on a community-owned instance Do you think if I had friends that I would be on social media?
- bmarquez 4y ago
  My friends and family are more likely to already have Facebook or Discord, and are unlikely to successfully navigate Mastodon onboarding even if it made sense for that use case. I hate Facebook but Discord is already fulfilling the role of a common space.
  - rakoo 4y ago
    > and are unlikely to successfully navigate Mastodon onboarding That's the point: take your community with you on your own instance and recreate your AFK network inside computers. Don't let them go through the hassle of choosing an instance, do it for them if you know how it works.
numpad0 4y ago
> Don't pick random instances, get together with friends and family on a community-owned instance. That isn't a social media, that's a mailing list. Won't even have to be on the Internet, you can put up a physical bulletin board and the result would be the same. Might as well drive to their places with packs of cans in the back. Discord/Mattermost works too. > Why so much FUD ? Why the hate ? It's not FUD or hate or exaggerated non-issue when a ton of instances are blacklisting the very top second and third and some bunch of top 20 instances. I understand that getting held responsible for users' legal responsibilities is naturally never worth Gargron's time, but if everyone has to to justify blocking pawoo.net(850k users), mstdn.jp(350k) and misskey.io(150k), totaling >17% of total ActivityPub population(7900k), there is clearly a family of elephants in the room.

by rakoo 4y ago

shortrounddev 4y ago

> get together with friends and family on a community-owned instance Do you think if I had friends that I would be on social media?

bmarquez 4y ago
My friends and family are more likely to already have Facebook or Discord, and are unlikely to successfully navigate Mastodon onboarding even if it made sense for that use case. I hate Facebook but Discord is already fulfilling the role of a common space.
- rakoo 4y ago
  > and are unlikely to successfully navigate Mastodon onboarding That's the point: take your community with you on your own instance and recreate your AFK network inside computers. Don't let them go through the hassle of choosing an instance, do it for them if you know how it works.

numpad0 4y ago

> Don't pick random instances, get together with friends and family on a community-owned instance. That isn't a social media, that's a mailing list. Won't even have to be on the Internet, you can put up a physical bulletin board and the result would be the same. Might as well drive to their places with packs of cans in the back. Discord/Mattermost works too. > Why so much FUD ? Why the hate ? It's not FUD or hate or exaggerated non-issue when a ton of instances are blacklisting the very top second and third and some bunch of top 20 instances. I understand that getting held responsible for users' legal responsibilities is naturally never worth Gargron's time, but if everyone has to to justify blocking pawoo.net(850k users), mstdn.jp(350k) and misskey.io(150k), totaling >17% of total ActivityPub population(7900k), there is clearly a family of elephants in the room.