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Might as well just put a bunch of dirt on the tank.

pcl 3y ago
From the end of the article: > “Giorgio Licciardi, an expert on collecting hyperspectral data from orbit at the Italian Space Agency, in Rome, says the technology even detects buried anti-tank mines. (Soil on top of them is typically drier.)”
- mrtnmcc 3y ago
  Maybe in a controlled setting they can detect mines, but there are plenty of other reasons for dry soil, i.e. hard to detect consistently without false positives. For tank camouflage that's all you need, something that blends in with false positives.
  - XorNot 3y ago
    No you need enough false positives that your adversary won't find it cost-effective to just commit a missile to all of them.
    - snovv_crash 3y ago
      Wouldn't a 50cal round be more cost effective?
      - ale42 3y ago
        Yes but you can't launch it from far away...
      - Tommstein 3y ago
        No, that won't even tickle a tank.
        hutzlibu 3y ago
        It could destroy some sensors and even the tracks if lucky, but I think parent poster meant the burried mines.
        1letterunixname 3y ago
        Before the M2 Bradley, US APCs generally lacked meaningful armor. 50 BMG would sail right through.
        rbanffy 3y ago
        IIRC, the Bradley got armour because it looked too much like a tank and that made it a more valuable target. Isn’t targeting APCs considered a faux pas in war, a little less bad than hitting an ambulance, but still not nice?
        nordsieck 3y ago
        > Isn’t targeting APCs considered a faux pas in war, a little less bad than hitting an ambulance, but still not nice? It is not a faux pas - they are legal targets. Not sure what you mean by "not nice". All of war is "not nice". Unless you're Pyro from TF2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I
        ukuina 3y ago
        That level of hallucination is certainly going to come in handy when creating military LLMs!
        TeMPOraL 3y ago
        I'm already imaging the integrated helmet AR HUD, with a (remote-operated) switch that just appends "in the style of Pyro's hallucinations in Team Fortress 2" to the prompt for the transformer sitting between your eyes and the helmet cams...
        3y ago

pcl 3y ago

From the end of the article: > “Giorgio Licciardi, an expert on collecting hyperspectral data from orbit at the Italian Space Agency, in Rome, says the technology even detects buried anti-tank mines. (Soil on top of them is typically drier.)”

mrtnmcc 3y ago
Maybe in a controlled setting they can detect mines, but there are plenty of other reasons for dry soil, i.e. hard to detect consistently without false positives. For tank camouflage that's all you need, something that blends in with false positives.
- XorNot 3y ago
  No you need enough false positives that your adversary won't find it cost-effective to just commit a missile to all of them.
  - snovv_crash 3y ago
    Wouldn't a 50cal round be more cost effective?
    - ale42 3y ago
      Yes but you can't launch it from far away...
    - Tommstein 3y ago
      No, that won't even tickle a tank.
      - hutzlibu 3y ago
        It could destroy some sensors and even the tracks if lucky, but I think parent poster meant the burried mines.
      - 1letterunixname 3y ago
        Before the M2 Bradley, US APCs generally lacked meaningful armor. 50 BMG would sail right through.
        rbanffy 3y ago
        IIRC, the Bradley got armour because it looked too much like a tank and that made it a more valuable target. Isn’t targeting APCs considered a faux pas in war, a little less bad than hitting an ambulance, but still not nice?
        nordsieck 3y ago
        > Isn’t targeting APCs considered a faux pas in war, a little less bad than hitting an ambulance, but still not nice? It is not a faux pas - they are legal targets. Not sure what you mean by "not nice". All of war is "not nice". Unless you're Pyro from TF2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I
        ukuina 3y ago
        That level of hallucination is certainly going to come in handy when creating military LLMs!
        TeMPOraL 3y ago
        I'm already imaging the integrated helmet AR HUD, with a (remote-operated) switch that just appends "in the style of Pyro's hallucinations in Team Fortress 2" to the prompt for the transformer sitting between your eyes and the helmet cams...
        3y ago