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I think I've said this before but this totally doesn't understand why podcasts are popular. So much media material is inauthentic that long form podcasts became

I think I've said this before but this totally doesn't understand why podcasts are popular. So much media material is inauthentic that long form podcasts became big as people were looking to connect with other people authentically. This concept, of creating a podcast using AI is exactly the kind of inauthentic thing podcasts got popular because of and as an alternative to. Crowd sourcing HN material to put through an AI tool for marketing buzz is the opposite of the impetus for podcasts. It fails as a podcast from the get go. You can't connect with this host - they don't offer opinions, they don't offer insight into their history or personality. There's no human on the other end, just a narrator regurgitating stuff a computer scraped from a website. That the host sounds better than siri or google assistant doesn't redeem the concept which is bankrupt as a podcast from the get go.

diminikolaou 4y ago
Hey, thanks for commenting! Totally get what you mean about wanting that authentic connection. That said, more and more people are turning to podcasts for practical reasons (like getting a rundown of the news) rather than just for conversation (like on the Joe Rogan Experience). And with the advancements in AI tech, synthetic voices can sound pretty close to human ones, especially in news readouts. So what we're trying to do here is to offer a useful option for people who prefer to consume information in audio format. It seems that many people found this valuable already, judging by the stats over the past 12 hours.
- lesiki 4y ago
  Agreed, I don't think the success of conversational podcasts precludes using the same platform for something like this. Other feedback: For this HN Recap, 20 mins daily is a bit long, a 5-10 minute version would genuinely be part of my daily routine. 1 chapter/section per story would be cool, so that I can skip stories I'm not interested in. I listen to podcasts through PodcastAddict on my phone but tested this on Spotify web at my computer, maybe this is already in there & I just didn't see it. Echoing what others said - I'd love for the general vibe of the comments to be included in some way, I actually tend to spend more time in HN comments than reading the articles themselves. Finally, I'm sure this is on your radar already, but IMO the big opportunity with AI-synthesized podcasts is personalized podcasts. For example, a personal Hacker News Recap RSS feed that knows the kind of stuff I upvote, or has me opt in to topics/tags when signing up.
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    piggybacking off of this, I categorically do not allow this company to use any of posts for their commercial purposes, period.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  I don't think it qualifies as a podcast. It has no host, it contains no discussion, it adds nothing to the articles being summarized, it does no journalism and adds no benefit except, as you said, shifts the summaries to an audio format. So there are some people who don't want to read and would rather just have things read to them. Is that a podcast? I don't think so. Is it authentic? Probably not but its not claiming to be anything but an ai tool, at least, but the whole thing you're doing is that your voice sounds more human than other ai voices. Whatever it is, its not a podcast. It's ai generated summaries being read by an ai voice.
quickthrower2 4y ago
Yes thats it. I stopped listening because although the voice is good and has vocal variety and expression it still sounds boring. I would rather listen to a human but “boring” voice than this. Uncanny valley perhaps. It is probably what is being said that is the problem here. Maybe some prompt engineering could spice it up a little.
Imply8215 4y ago
For me those are different use-cases. In this one, I just need someone to run me through HN while I drive to work, they don't need to have a personality

diminikolaou 4y ago

Hey, thanks for commenting! Totally get what you mean about wanting that authentic connection. That said, more and more people are turning to podcasts for practical reasons (like getting a rundown of the news) rather than just for conversation (like on the Joe Rogan Experience). And with the advancements in AI tech, synthetic voices can sound pretty close to human ones, especially in news readouts. So what we're trying to do here is to offer a useful option for people who prefer to consume information in audio format. It seems that many people found this valuable already, judging by the stats over the past 12 hours.

lesiki 4y ago
Agreed, I don't think the success of conversational podcasts precludes using the same platform for something like this. Other feedback: For this HN Recap, 20 mins daily is a bit long, a 5-10 minute version would genuinely be part of my daily routine. 1 chapter/section per story would be cool, so that I can skip stories I'm not interested in. I listen to podcasts through PodcastAddict on my phone but tested this on Spotify web at my computer, maybe this is already in there & I just didn't see it. Echoing what others said - I'd love for the general vibe of the comments to be included in some way, I actually tend to spend more time in HN comments than reading the articles themselves. Finally, I'm sure this is on your radar already, but IMO the big opportunity with AI-synthesized podcasts is personalized podcasts. For example, a personal Hacker News Recap RSS feed that knows the kind of stuff I upvote, or has me opt in to topics/tags when signing up.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  piggybacking off of this, I categorically do not allow this company to use any of posts for their commercial purposes, period.
LegitShady 4y ago
I don't think it qualifies as a podcast. It has no host, it contains no discussion, it adds nothing to the articles being summarized, it does no journalism and adds no benefit except, as you said, shifts the summaries to an audio format. So there are some people who don't want to read and would rather just have things read to them. Is that a podcast? I don't think so. Is it authentic? Probably not but its not claiming to be anything but an ai tool, at least, but the whole thing you're doing is that your voice sounds more human than other ai voices. Whatever it is, its not a podcast. It's ai generated summaries being read by an ai voice.

quickthrower2 4y ago

Yes thats it. I stopped listening because although the voice is good and has vocal variety and expression it still sounds boring. I would rather listen to a human but “boring” voice than this. Uncanny valley perhaps. It is probably what is being said that is the problem here. Maybe some prompt engineering could spice it up a little.

Imply8215 4y ago

For me those are different use-cases. In this one, I just need someone to run me through HN while I drive to work, they don't need to have a personality