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We're trying to do this @ NimbusWS, but the corporate way. Excuse the crappy looking site (been busy trying to actually deliver all the shit on that page), but

We're trying to do this @ NimbusWS, but the corporate way. Excuse the crappy looking site (been busy trying to actually deliver all the shit on that page), but I believe that F/OSS can be sustainable: https://nimbusws.com/#sustainability https://nimbusws.com/#sustainability All it takes is contributing a small % of revenue back. I'm not decided that 10%-30% will be the final # (can a business give that much and still compete?), but then also some of me feels that it should actually flip at some point (30% for nimbus, 70% for F/OSS project) if most of the value is actually the F/OSS project (i.e. the project is so high quality that all we do is mostly run it and upgrade it happily). Right now only the Redis service is available (object storage is coming soon (tm)), but kick the tires: https://nimbusws.com/app https://nimbusws.com/app (register @ the bottom!) One thing we haven't figured out is how to pay library authors. dunno what to do, but early idea is some % contribution and letting people calculate allotment (ex. 5% of your 20% revenue donation must go to libs, but you pick which libs you depend on get the most).

myself248 4y ago
Much admiration for your stance on giving back. Much confusion that this domain isn't for the Nimbus weather station. Ah, the cloud! Is there anything it can't do?
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  > Much admiration for your stance on giving back. Thanks for the kind words -- I do have to make it real, and make sustainable profit first before my aims mean anything, but at least I think I'm pointing in the right direction. > Much confusion that this domain isn't for the Nimbus weather station. > Ah, the cloud! Is there anything it can't do? Well looks like there might be a name change in the future... That might be a legitimate confusion point. TIL of the nimbus weather station: https://www.rainbird.com/golf/nimbusii https://www.rainbird.com/golf/nimbusii It's like a Bloomberg Terminal for weather...?
eastbound 4y ago
Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  > Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. I agree, there's value being brought by both sides of this equation -- F/OSS developers for building something valuable, and Nimbus for providing it, making fixes/upstream contributions when necessary, etc. The problem with the current state of things is that the value capture is ~0% for F/OSS projects. Maybe 15%-30% is too high, but it needs to be appreciably above 0% for F/OSS to flourish. > There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose. Would you mind expanding on this? Are you advocating for open core? It's not that I want to provide an enterprise version of 10/100ss of software -- more that I think there's value in them as a service (use Postgres, but avoid getting a degree in Postges administration). The idea is to do just enough hacking that makes the service more reliable and sustainable to run without manual ops burden -- that's the differentiator for Nimbus (along with know-how).

myself248 4y ago

Much admiration for your stance on giving back. Much confusion that this domain isn't for the Nimbus weather station. Ah, the cloud! Is there anything it can't do?

hardwaresofton 4y ago
> Much admiration for your stance on giving back. Thanks for the kind words -- I do have to make it real, and make sustainable profit first before my aims mean anything, but at least I think I'm pointing in the right direction. > Much confusion that this domain isn't for the Nimbus weather station. > Ah, the cloud! Is there anything it can't do? Well looks like there might be a name change in the future... That might be a legitimate confusion point. TIL of the nimbus weather station: https://www.rainbird.com/golf/nimbusii https://www.rainbird.com/golf/nimbusii It's like a Bloomberg Terminal for weather...?

eastbound 4y ago

Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose.

hardwaresofton 4y ago
> Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. I agree, there's value being brought by both sides of this equation -- F/OSS developers for building something valuable, and Nimbus for providing it, making fixes/upstream contributions when necessary, etc. The problem with the current state of things is that the value capture is ~0% for F/OSS projects. Maybe 15%-30% is too high, but it needs to be appreciably above 0% for F/OSS to flourish. > There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose. Would you mind expanding on this? Are you advocating for open core? It's not that I want to provide an enterprise version of 10/100ss of software -- more that I think there's value in them as a service (use Postgres, but avoid getting a degree in Postges administration). The idea is to do just enough hacking that makes the service more reliable and sustainable to run without manual ops burden -- that's the differentiator for Nimbus (along with know-how).