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What else is there to consciousness? I wrote a comment to this effect a couple years back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26883554 https://news.ycombinat
by colanderman 4y ago
What else is there to consciousness? I wrote a comment to this effect a couple years back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26883554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26883554 (your list is pretty close to my own)
I think what's missing from these Generative Agents are the internal qualia: emotions (and the attachment of emotions to memories), and self-observation of internal processes and needs. These agents don't eat because they need to, they eat because literary tradition suggests they ought to.
These missing pieces aren't particularly complicated, no more so than memory. I expect we'll see similar agents with all the ingredients for consciousness within a few months to a year.
- jkhdigital 4y ago> These agents don't eat because they need to, they eat because literary tradition suggests they ought to. Exactly, you're always going to get weird deviations from authentic human behavior if you don't also simulate the human body and everything that comes with it. I'd argue that "qualia" fall into this bucket as well.
- startupsfail 4y agoYou can take a human that can’t feel the body (i.e. under unaesthetic). That human can still be conscious.
- startupsfail 4y agoI’m not so sure about that timing. During the previous wave (ChatBots were very hot in 2017), I’ve also considered that consciousness is pretty much solved - it’s just recursive chatter plus a bit of memory. Yet the hype of ChatBots of 2017 had went and it took half a decade to get to something released.