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Obvious fake story.

by searealist 4y ago

Obvious fake story.

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LeoPanthera 4y ago
Since it's obvious, could you explain why you think that?
- searealist 4y ago
  It's written in the frame of "I used to be a huge believer of not X, but now I learned X is true! And that gives me credibility!". No one talks like this except people trying to manipulate you.
  - operatingthetan 4y ago
    To be fair they claim to be a marketing writer so that would check out with their story...
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  - gkoberger 4y ago
    I feel like that only happens when X is a thing they're trying to promote, such as "I used to be a liberal but now they're too woke, so now I'm voting Trump." But for this, there's no upside. They aren't promoting anything. In fact, they're withdrawing their promotion of something with no alternative. I guess I just don't get your point. I think a lot of people believe humans are superior (currently, they are!), and genuinely are going to be blindsided by the fact that creativity isn't a uniquely human trait.
    - searealist 4y ago
      Some people lie for fun.
  - yodon 4y ago
    >No one talks like this except people trying to manipulate you. The post is written by a person who gets paid (or at least used to get paid) to write marketing copy. The author is by definition a professional writer of marketing copy. Of course it sounds like professionally written text designed to impact the opinion of the reader - it is professionally written text designed to impact the opinion of the reader. That doesn't make it a lie. The form of the message is exactly what you would expect a truthful message from such an individual to look like. Given all that is happening with the capabilities and adoption of GPT, and comparing the low economic value of karma and likes to the high likelihood of individuals like the one described being impacted in this way, my personal view is it's far more likely to be truthful than some grand conspiracy of falsehoods.
- mmmmmbop 4y ago
  Not GP, but the bit about the author signing up for Doordash as a driver also made me think the post is fake. According to the post, the author lost her client on the day of making the post, and within that same day decided to sign up for Doordash before making the Reddit post. Even if she was under severe financial duress, it would be a surprisingly quick decision, but as a writer previously making $80/hr and having the financial resources to take 3 years off work, it just doesn't seem believable. In the intro, she states that she's using a throwaway to avoid other clients identifying her, so she clearly does have other clients, and she does mention a "normal" rate of $50/hr, in addition to having worked as a "writer for over a decade, [having] worked with top brands as a freelancer, [and having] more than a dozen published articles on well known websites". How is the best use of time for somebody like that to work an unskilled $20/hr gig instead of investing time into building new client relationships? Even if the author believes that this client firing her implies that her current profession is doomed long-term, it just seems out of character for somebody like that to resort to being a Doordash driver. It just seems like an appeal to the fear of sliding down the social ladder, and as such a manipulative tool (just like the clickbait title) to produce a high-engagement Reddit post.
gkoberger 4y ago
It might be fake, but I don't see why it's "obviously" fake. This marketer is likely helping people with SEO. Search engines (allegedly) reward frequent, unique, backlinked content on a subject. Client is a dentist? Write a blog post a week about dentist-related things. Link to his other clients posts for backlinks, and everyone wins. She says he's a freelance marketer, and subcontracts out to her. If nobody is really reading these posts anyway, does it matter if a human writes it? And if it doesn't matter... why not pocket that extra $80/hr himself? You know, until his clients do the same to him.
- searealist 4y ago
  Or it could be 1 fake post in a sea of throw away accounts fabricating stories on reddit for fun and karma. Or maybe it's a real story and they really did give up writing and start driving for doordash over this. You decide.
  - gkoberger 4y ago
    Again, could be fake, but if you had a 3 y/o and your salary cut to $0, you might panic and go for one of the few jobs where you can start making money instantly w/o having to interview while you look for more work.

Obvious fake story.

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LeoPanthera 4y ago

Since it's obvious, could you explain why you think that?

searealist 4y ago
It's written in the frame of "I used to be a huge believer of not X, but now I learned X is true! And that gives me credibility!". No one talks like this except people trying to manipulate you.
- operatingthetan 4y ago
  To be fair they claim to be a marketing writer so that would check out with their story...
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- gkoberger 4y ago
  I feel like that only happens when X is a thing they're trying to promote, such as "I used to be a liberal but now they're too woke, so now I'm voting Trump." But for this, there's no upside. They aren't promoting anything. In fact, they're withdrawing their promotion of something with no alternative. I guess I just don't get your point. I think a lot of people believe humans are superior (currently, they are!), and genuinely are going to be blindsided by the fact that creativity isn't a uniquely human trait.
  - searealist 4y ago
    Some people lie for fun.
- yodon 4y ago
  >No one talks like this except people trying to manipulate you. The post is written by a person who gets paid (or at least used to get paid) to write marketing copy. The author is by definition a professional writer of marketing copy. Of course it sounds like professionally written text designed to impact the opinion of the reader - it is professionally written text designed to impact the opinion of the reader. That doesn't make it a lie. The form of the message is exactly what you would expect a truthful message from such an individual to look like. Given all that is happening with the capabilities and adoption of GPT, and comparing the low economic value of karma and likes to the high likelihood of individuals like the one described being impacted in this way, my personal view is it's far more likely to be truthful than some grand conspiracy of falsehoods.
mmmmmbop 4y ago
Not GP, but the bit about the author signing up for Doordash as a driver also made me think the post is fake. According to the post, the author lost her client on the day of making the post, and within that same day decided to sign up for Doordash before making the Reddit post. Even if she was under severe financial duress, it would be a surprisingly quick decision, but as a writer previously making $80/hr and having the financial resources to take 3 years off work, it just doesn't seem believable. In the intro, she states that she's using a throwaway to avoid other clients identifying her, so she clearly does have other clients, and she does mention a "normal" rate of $50/hr, in addition to having worked as a "writer for over a decade, [having] worked with top brands as a freelancer, [and having] more than a dozen published articles on well known websites". How is the best use of time for somebody like that to work an unskilled $20/hr gig instead of investing time into building new client relationships? Even if the author believes that this client firing her implies that her current profession is doomed long-term, it just seems out of character for somebody like that to resort to being a Doordash driver. It just seems like an appeal to the fear of sliding down the social ladder, and as such a manipulative tool (just like the clickbait title) to produce a high-engagement Reddit post.

gkoberger 4y ago

It might be fake, but I don't see why it's "obviously" fake. This marketer is likely helping people with SEO. Search engines (allegedly) reward frequent, unique, backlinked content on a subject. Client is a dentist? Write a blog post a week about dentist-related things. Link to his other clients posts for backlinks, and everyone wins. She says he's a freelance marketer, and subcontracts out to her. If nobody is really reading these posts anyway, does it matter if a human writes it? And if it doesn't matter... why not pocket that extra $80/hr himself? You know, until his clients do the same to him.

searealist 4y ago
Or it could be 1 fake post in a sea of throw away accounts fabricating stories on reddit for fun and karma. Or maybe it's a real story and they really did give up writing and start driving for doordash over this. You decide.
- gkoberger 4y ago
  Again, could be fake, but if you had a 3 y/o and your salary cut to $0, you might panic and go for one of the few jobs where you can start making money instantly w/o having to interview while you look for more work.