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I replied to you on the blog but since you cross-posted: @Katelyn, I think you misunderstand the purpose. It’s not a paranoia thing to prevent companies recor

by buro9 15y ago

I replied to you on the blog but since you cross-posted: @Katelyn, I think you misunderstand the purpose. It’s not a paranoia thing to prevent companies recording information, instead it’s a preference for how I like to consume the web. The companies are free to record whatever they wish, they do so by my user of their service. But I’m free to choose how my client consumes their service. I just prefer web sites that aren’t updating state based on me just reading things. I like to see opposing sides of the argument, so don’t like the idea of being bubbled by my own preferences. I feel a little freaked out when one cycling site I go on has adverts for the tyres I looked at 2 weeks ago on an entirely unconnected web site. Personalisation can get it wrong. In the same way that Amazon recommendations become tainted every December when you do the Christmas shop. And personalisation can be extremely upsetting, such as a family member who still receives new born baby information months after a miscarriage. It just comes back to how I use the web. I enjoy it more when it’s made up of many disconnected things giving a consistent experience to the user... me.

mangodrunk 15y ago
You don't give any good reasons to do what you do. You just seem to be paranoid about something, I'm not sure of. >I just prefer web sites that aren’t updating state based on me just reading things. That seems odd. What do you care? Do you get frustrated if they incremented a counter to see how many people are currently on their site? >I like to see opposing sides of the argument, so don’t like the idea of being bubbled by my own preferences. That's shortsighted of you. The algorithm can detect that you like this and will show you a healthy does of opposing arguments. >I feel a little freaked out when one cycling site I go on has adverts for the tyres I looked at 2 weeks ago on an entirely unconnected web site. So you don't like to see relevant ads. >Personalisation can get it wrong. In the same way that Amazon recommendations become tainted every December when you do the Christmas shop. Sure, it can get it wrong, that's why it isn't as prevalent as you make it seem to be. Also, Amazon does their recommendations based on the latest things you shopped for. So when you start browsing other stuff, they'll show you related content. >And personalisation can be extremely upsetting, such as a family member who still receives new born baby information months after a miscarriage. Any one can get that wrong (and this isn't an extreme case). Their friend could congratulate them on the baby. >It just comes back to how I use the web. Like old media that isn't dynamic. >I enjoy it more when it’s made up of many disconnected things giving a consistent experience to the user... me. That doesn't make sense. It seems you don't like the Internet. You make some good points on how they could improve these things, but not on them not being used.
Katelyn 15y ago
It wasn't clear to me that you were trying to avoid "the filter bubble." It sounded as though you were truly paranoid/freaked out when you saw advertisers retargeting you, etc. I din't realize inaccurate personalization could be so upsetting. I typically take everything I read or see with a grain of salt. The Internet, afterall, is made by bozos like you and me ;)

by buro9 15y ago

mangodrunk 15y ago

You don't give any good reasons to do what you do. You just seem to be paranoid about something, I'm not sure of. >I just prefer web sites that aren’t updating state based on me just reading things. That seems odd. What do you care? Do you get frustrated if they incremented a counter to see how many people are currently on their site? >I like to see opposing sides of the argument, so don’t like the idea of being bubbled by my own preferences. That's shortsighted of you. The algorithm can detect that you like this and will show you a healthy does of opposing arguments. >I feel a little freaked out when one cycling site I go on has adverts for the tyres I looked at 2 weeks ago on an entirely unconnected web site. So you don't like to see relevant ads. >Personalisation can get it wrong. In the same way that Amazon recommendations become tainted every December when you do the Christmas shop. Sure, it can get it wrong, that's why it isn't as prevalent as you make it seem to be. Also, Amazon does their recommendations based on the latest things you shopped for. So when you start browsing other stuff, they'll show you related content. >And personalisation can be extremely upsetting, such as a family member who still receives new born baby information months after a miscarriage. Any one can get that wrong (and this isn't an extreme case). Their friend could congratulate them on the baby. >It just comes back to how I use the web. Like old media that isn't dynamic. >I enjoy it more when it’s made up of many disconnected things giving a consistent experience to the user... me. That doesn't make sense. It seems you don't like the Internet. You make some good points on how they could improve these things, but not on them not being used.

Katelyn 15y ago

It wasn't clear to me that you were trying to avoid "the filter bubble." It sounded as though you were truly paranoid/freaked out when you saw advertisers retargeting you, etc. I din't realize inaccurate personalization could be so upsetting. I typically take everything I read or see with a grain of salt. The Internet, afterall, is made by bozos like you and me ;)