3 ms·

> Most people don't look to religion for scientific answers but for community, a scaffolding to build their lives around, and for relief from existential dread.

by epups 4y ago

> Most people don't look to religion for scientific answers but for community, a scaffolding to build their lives around, and for relief from existential dread. I don't think this is true at all, particularly when you consider the world at large and not just the West. Also, you can find these functions elsewhere. You don't need to believe in God or in miracles to have any of that. Also, biblical literalists are the reason many rights are eroding in the West. Confronting them is a necessity, even if you're a religious person.

mistermann 4y ago
> You don't need to believe in God or in miracles to have any of that. You don't actually know this, but you were raised in a culture where clairvoyance is considered acceptable so it doesn't seem weird. Faith-based thinking seems to be a core part of the human experience.
- epups 4y ago
  > Faith-based thinking seems to be a core part of the human experience. Weird how me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it then. I have no idea what you meant about clairvoyance.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    [flagged]
  - mistermann 4y ago
    > Weird how me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it then. Weird how you can't realize that the actual truth value of that perception is a function of the truth value of the accusation itself. > I have no idea what you meant about clairvoyance. The truth value of "You don't need to believe in God or in miracles to have any of that" (or, "me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it") is a function of the experiences of the individual human beings in the referenced set. You do not actually have access to that, so your mind whipped up a virtual proxy of reality to stand in for reality itself. In your culture, this supernatural practice is considered normal, so no one even bats an eye at it. In my experience, most people consider it ~crazy to not do this.

by epups 4y ago

mistermann 4y ago

> You don't need to believe in God or in miracles to have any of that. You don't actually know this, but you were raised in a culture where clairvoyance is considered acceptable so it doesn't seem weird. Faith-based thinking seems to be a core part of the human experience.

epups 4y ago
> Faith-based thinking seems to be a core part of the human experience. Weird how me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it then. I have no idea what you meant about clairvoyance.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  [flagged]
- mistermann 4y ago
  > Weird how me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it then. Weird how you can't realize that the actual truth value of that perception is a function of the truth value of the accusation itself. > I have no idea what you meant about clairvoyance. The truth value of "You don't need to believe in God or in miracles to have any of that" (or, "me and hundreds of millions of people can do without it") is a function of the experiences of the individual human beings in the referenced set. You do not actually have access to that, so your mind whipped up a virtual proxy of reality to stand in for reality itself. In your culture, this supernatural practice is considered normal, so no one even bats an eye at it. In my experience, most people consider it ~crazy to not do this.