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I suspect a lot of people won't want to own self-driving cars, especially if you're right and people forget how to drive themselves. We could drastically reduce
by dpkirchner 4y ago
I suspect a lot of people won't want to own self-driving cars, especially if you're right and people forget how to drive themselves. We could drastically reduce the amount of parking we need, at least within cities, meaning there probably won't be many cars idly circling blocks.
Personally, I'd be down for a driverless Uber-like service.
- runnerup 4y agoThis also implies that some nontrivial amount of the driving on roads will be cars with no humans in them, which may also be worse than the status quo.
- dpkirchner 4y agoIt's possible. I wonder if we would see as many idle/empty self-driving cars as we do idle/empty human-driven cabs and Ubers/etc. I could see a self-driving system being a lot more efficient because it doesn't have to keep a car on the road for a driver's entire shift.
- Ekaros 4y agoI think we will see more. If just keeping them running circles around blocks with most expected demand is nearly same cost it will happen. Specially if they are EVs with automatic charging.
- JohnFen 4y agoDamn. I never thought of SDCs as being particularly dystopic, but this would be squarely in that area.
- JohnFen 4y ago> I suspect a lot of people won't want to own self-driving cars If it involves the car having a data link to someone else's server, then I have no interest whatsoever in self-driving vehicles.
- HDThoreaun 4y agoThis view will have a negligible effect on the market. You and the dozens like you can still have cars and a lot of other people can use the self driving ubers
- JohnFen 4y agoI'm always curious when these "your preference is irrelevant" comments pop up. Yes, you're probably right. So what? I wasn't even remotely asserting otherwise.
- HDThoreaun 4y agoSo it doesn’t matter if a small number of people defect from self driving ride share. Enough people will use it to decrease parking needs.
- tshaddox 4y agoWell, the conversation is mostly about the impact of new technology on large-scale trends. When someone makes a prediction about how "a lot of people" will react to new technology, it's understandable that a reply of "I won't react like that" could be seen as irrelevant. Like if someone says "a lot of people will buy the new iPhone" and someone replies "I will never own a cellular phone or even a cordless landline phone" I can understand why that could seem irrelevant to the conversation.
- JohnFen 4y agoIn this case, I was replying to a speculation that a lot of people won't want to own self-driving cars by saying I'm one of those people, and why. My response was on-topic and relevant. Replies to comments such as mine saying "you don't matter" strike me as interesting because they come off as overly defensive, is all.
- TeMPOraL 4y agoI'd say it's an important reminder, especially that even here, people still cling to the view that you can "vote with your wallet". Also, it's more than just having "a negligible effect on the market" - if your preferences diverge too much from the main trend, they'll simply not be met at all. In this context, it means that with large enough self-driving car adoption, you won't get to keep a regular car - they'll eventually stop being sold, but by that time you won't be allowed to legally drive one anyway.