Comparing vim+console to an IDE is always going to be all about personal preferences That's been my point from the beginning. Tradeoffs between personal prefer

Comparing vim+console to an IDE is always going to be all about personal preferences That's been my point from the beginning. Tradeoffs between personal preferences is a hallmark of apples-apples comparisons. I mean apples-apples in the sense that both toolsets are used to accomplish the same exact things. I agree that there are the two general types of people that you describe, but I disagree that they are so irreconciliable that they shouldn't even attempt to discuss the tradeoffs. It is a perfectly reasonable discussion to have.