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I have never, not once, been held up by a side-show in San Francisco. I did have to wait 5 minutes to cross the street to get to the farmer's market at the Emba

I have never, not once, been held up by a side-show in San Francisco. I did have to wait 5 minutes to cross the street to get to the farmer's market at the Embarcadero while a motorcycle brigade zoomed up the street. The only side-shows I have seen have been in Oakland and even further into the East Bay. With that being said, I have witnessed Cruise cars lovingly tapping j-walking pedestrians and traffic abiding cyclists around the lower Haight. I have also seen self-driving cars block buses and the street car.

zecken 4y ago
I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic, I've only been delayed by a side show once in my neighborhood by the Chase center -- I've never been blocked by a self driving car. I'm sure everyone has different experiences, but the characterization the article tries to make that these vehicles are a menace to society strike me as overblown and contradictory to many people's lived experiences here. At least these folks are paying money to treat the city like a playground. I haven't seen anyone get love tapped by one of the self-driving cars, but if that's happening regularly it seems like a pretty serious problem.
- hezralig 4y ago
  I moved out of the state during the pandemic when I bought a house in the PNW, however, I am mostly surprised to hear there are sideshows happening in SF after living there for over a decade. As for the Cruise cars, I believe they were still being trained so were not carrying passengers yet. They might have ironed out the kinks.
whimsicalism 4y ago
There are lots of sideshows in the Mission, Castro, Potrero Hill, Mission Bay, SOMA, but yeah not as many in the Haight area. > I have witnessed Cruise cars lovingly tapping j-walking pedestrians I live in the lower Haight as well and have never personally witnessed that, but don't doubt that it happens. The non-self driving cars here don't interact with the Wiggle super well either though.
- hezralig 4y ago
  The only side shows in the Mission I can recall happened when I first moved to San Francisco. The streets were closed for the annual street fair though.

zecken 4y ago

I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic, I've only been delayed by a side show once in my neighborhood by the Chase center -- I've never been blocked by a self driving car. I'm sure everyone has different experiences, but the characterization the article tries to make that these vehicles are a menace to society strike me as overblown and contradictory to many people's lived experiences here. At least these folks are paying money to treat the city like a playground. I haven't seen anyone get love tapped by one of the self-driving cars, but if that's happening regularly it seems like a pretty serious problem.

hezralig 4y ago
I moved out of the state during the pandemic when I bought a house in the PNW, however, I am mostly surprised to hear there are sideshows happening in SF after living there for over a decade. As for the Cruise cars, I believe they were still being trained so were not carrying passengers yet. They might have ironed out the kinks.

whimsicalism 4y ago

There are lots of sideshows in the Mission, Castro, Potrero Hill, Mission Bay, SOMA, but yeah not as many in the Haight area. > I have witnessed Cruise cars lovingly tapping j-walking pedestrians I live in the lower Haight as well and have never personally witnessed that, but don't doubt that it happens. The non-self driving cars here don't interact with the Wiggle super well either though.

hezralig 4y ago
The only side shows in the Mission I can recall happened when I first moved to San Francisco. The streets were closed for the annual street fair though.