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the short answer is "no" this is a question that came up often when he was asked on his motivation to dedicate so much time on debunking religion and religious
by muyuu 4y ago
the short answer is "no"
this is a question that came up often when he was asked on his motivation to dedicate so much time on debunking religion and religious practice
it wasn't a question about God or some God, it was a question on the supposed rational golden era that, according to Richard Dawkins, God and religion were stopping
his view that religion would be replaced by a judicious form of rationalism has been thoroughly discredited IMO, so no, he was not right about that
Dawkins' fear of the religious person looks to me exactly like the fear of the unknown that serves as the basis for many religious beliefs, and his belief that humanism would save the world completely analogous to Anglicanism, Catholicism or Orthodox Christianity, all of which have a scientific/gnostic eagerness[*], and a goal to unify the nations of the world
listening to Solzhenitsyn describing the humanists of the post-war, Dawkins completely resembles the figure of the zealot of a non-Deistic religion - "Humanism" - so blindingly fanatic of his beliefs that he cannot fathom that, once people are presented with them, some people might just not accept them or agree to them
* those religions actually try to track scientific truths, adapt to them and teach them
- epups 4y ago> * those religions actually try to track scientific truths, adapt to them and teach them They do to a minimal extent. They still profess belief in revelation and miracles, to name just two things that are completely orthogonal to the scientific method. I also find it self-evidently false that their goal is to "unify the nations of the world", when you talk about three competing branches of a religion that has a ton of blood on its hands. I don't think Dawkins is afraid of religious people, but the opposite is quite likely.
- muyuu 4y agonominally they do, both things they carry post-Galilean duality of the spiritual and the natural, and they literally aim to be the world's single religion there is no contradiction between aiming to be unifying, and believing this greater goal justifies bloodshed - in fact it's at the core of it, and it shares the problem with humanism and other forms of moral atheism
- epups 4y agoOk, so they want to unify the world by killing everyone who disagrees. And you seem to believe that "humanists" (meaning atheists I presume) believe the same thing. I hope I didn't get your argument right. In case I did, the first assertion is laughable, and the second one is false.
- muyuu 4y ago> Ok, so they want to unify the world by killing everyone who disagrees. A pretending any of the aforementioned religions are on the stage of forced conversion is laughable if you're older than 15, otherwise it's just false
- epups 4y ago>> pretending any of the aforementioned religions are on the stage of forced conversion is laughable You literally said: > there is no contradiction between aiming to be unifying, and believing this greater goal justifies bloodshed - in fact it's at the core of it No one mentioned forced conversions btw.