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What are you referring to re Linus Paulings?

Arnavion 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling#Medical_research_and_vitamin_C_advocacy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling#Medical_resear...
mr_mitm 4y ago
Another user in this thread mentioned it and it's described in the wikipedia article about crazy nobel laureates linked elsewhere here. Basically, Pauling believed high doses of vitamin C could prolong the lives of cancer patients and cure schizophrenia, despite being out of his field of expertise and lack of evidence.
- elashri 4y ago
  But Penrose's field of expertise is Cosmology. So I don't think I get the analogy? I understand that this is a speculation because it is very hard to collect evidence for that claim but it is still within the wide umbrella of what Penrose devoted his career.
  - slowmovintarget 4y ago
    That's the point. Penrose's ideas are worth taking seriously because they are directly in line with his field of expertise, and there are means supplied in his papers to rule the ideas out (predictions that should hold true on data we are able to measure). This was a contrast, not an analogy.
    - sangnoir 4y ago
      What data do we have from the time before the big bang?
      - slowmovintarget 4y ago
        His papers present things to look for in the current cosmic microwave background that would be evidence. In other words, data we have access to. He's made some claims that these "circles" have been found, as some colleagues of his are working on making such observations. Those "circles" have not been independently verified, however, nor is it yet possible to rule out process error in the data, or the observations calculated from the data. The CMB should show cold spots from evaporated black holes that have expanded to several arc-seconds in diameter. It requires very sensitive survey data, though.
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  - auntienomen 4y ago
    Penrose's expertise is general relativity. He's not at all expert in particle physics, which is an essential part of cosmology these days.
    - canadianfella 4y ago
      I’m pretty sure Mr. Penrose is at least somewhat of an expert in particle physics.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling#Medical_research_and_vitamin_C_advocacy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling#Medical_resear...

mr_mitm 4y ago

Another user in this thread mentioned it and it's described in the wikipedia article about crazy nobel laureates linked elsewhere here. Basically, Pauling believed high doses of vitamin C could prolong the lives of cancer patients and cure schizophrenia, despite being out of his field of expertise and lack of evidence.

elashri 4y ago
But Penrose's field of expertise is Cosmology. So I don't think I get the analogy? I understand that this is a speculation because it is very hard to collect evidence for that claim but it is still within the wide umbrella of what Penrose devoted his career.
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  That's the point. Penrose's ideas are worth taking seriously because they are directly in line with his field of expertise, and there are means supplied in his papers to rule the ideas out (predictions that should hold true on data we are able to measure). This was a contrast, not an analogy.
  - sangnoir 4y ago
    What data do we have from the time before the big bang?
    - slowmovintarget 4y ago
      His papers present things to look for in the current cosmic microwave background that would be evidence. In other words, data we have access to. He's made some claims that these "circles" have been found, as some colleagues of his are working on making such observations. Those "circles" have not been independently verified, however, nor is it yet possible to rule out process error in the data, or the observations calculated from the data. The CMB should show cold spots from evaporated black holes that have expanded to several arc-seconds in diameter. It requires very sensitive survey data, though.
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- auntienomen 4y ago
  Penrose's expertise is general relativity. He's not at all expert in particle physics, which is an essential part of cosmology these days.
  - canadianfella 4y ago
    I’m pretty sure Mr. Penrose is at least somewhat of an expert in particle physics.