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> I think you meant "not part of python" I meant part of python. https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#map https://docs.python.org/3/library/functi

> I think you meant "not part of python" I meant part of python. https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#map https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#map https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#filter https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#filter https://docs.python.org/3/library/functools.html https://docs.python.org/3/library/functools.html (sadly, I can't link to reduce here)

_a_a_a_ 4y ago
Comprehensions are part of python, the language. Map/filter/reduce as you've indicated, isn't, it's clearly a library. In addition you previously complain that python doesn't have what you want "I get access to reduce... [in Ruby]" then prove that it does have it, so I don't see what you're saying. > Clojure is all of the built in functional bits. Are you saying map, filter, reduce are implemented in the core language and not an add-on library?
- nordsieck 4y ago
  > Comprehensions are part of python, the language. Map/filter/reduce as you've indicated, isn't, it's clearly a library. I guess, it's true that reduce is part of an included library. But map and filter are "built-in functions". I guess you could make a distinction between those and the language proper, but that's splitting some pretty fine hairs. > In addition you previously complain that python doesn't have what you want "I get access to reduce... [in Ruby]" then prove that it does have it, so I don't see what you're saying. Here's what I said: "Yes, I know that python has map, filter, and reduce. But they're all gimped by the way python implements lambdas." > Are you saying map, filter, reduce are implemented in the core language and not an add-on library? If you look at the clojure cheetsheet[1], you can see all of the built-ins (most are functions, some are macros) that Clojure supports (as well as some included libraries). map, filter, and reduce are all built ins. I strongly doubt that they're supported at the syntax level, but that's kind of lisp's shtick - even stuff like "+" is a built in function, and not "part of the language". --- 1. https://clojure.org/api/cheatsheet https://clojure.org/api/cheatsheet
  - _a_a_a_ 4y ago
    I think you're being slightly harder on python than is entirely necessary but you've made your point well.

_a_a_a_ 4y ago

Comprehensions are part of python, the language. Map/filter/reduce as you've indicated, isn't, it's clearly a library. In addition you previously complain that python doesn't have what you want "I get access to reduce... [in Ruby]" then prove that it does have it, so I don't see what you're saying. > Clojure is all of the built in functional bits. Are you saying map, filter, reduce are implemented in the core language and not an add-on library?

nordsieck 4y ago
> Comprehensions are part of python, the language. Map/filter/reduce as you've indicated, isn't, it's clearly a library. I guess, it's true that reduce is part of an included library. But map and filter are "built-in functions". I guess you could make a distinction between those and the language proper, but that's splitting some pretty fine hairs. > In addition you previously complain that python doesn't have what you want "I get access to reduce... [in Ruby]" then prove that it does have it, so I don't see what you're saying. Here's what I said: "Yes, I know that python has map, filter, and reduce. But they're all gimped by the way python implements lambdas." > Are you saying map, filter, reduce are implemented in the core language and not an add-on library? If you look at the clojure cheetsheet[1], you can see all of the built-ins (most are functions, some are macros) that Clojure supports (as well as some included libraries). map, filter, and reduce are all built ins. I strongly doubt that they're supported at the syntax level, but that's kind of lisp's shtick - even stuff like "+" is a built in function, and not "part of the language". --- 1. https://clojure.org/api/cheatsheet https://clojure.org/api/cheatsheet
- _a_a_a_ 4y ago
  I think you're being slightly harder on python than is entirely necessary but you've made your point well.