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They have tacitly endorsed the leak. https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomment-1453872037 https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/7

They have tacitly endorsed the leak. https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomment-1453872037 https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomme...

yieldcrv 4y ago
Only because publicly visible actions are worse for them People have gotten DMCA takedown requests from them over Llama repositories
- greyface- 4y ago
  If they were interested in limiting distribution, saying essentially "go ahead and seed this torrent more" is worse for them than doing nothing.
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    I’ve actually beat the streisand effect before by not responding. The crowd gets bored and my DMCA requests flurry out a month later and all evidence disappears, individuals that might notice dont have the crowd to amplify that they noticed. You can call that “tacit consent” if you want. But streisand removes all leverage.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Are they going after copies of LLaMA, or after LLaMA derivatives specifically?
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733
Mathnerd314 4y ago
That's a contributor to the repo, not someone with commit access.
- greyface- 4y ago
  A contributor who is also a Facebook employee and co-author of the LLaMA paper, presumably speaking in official capacity.
  - barbariangrunge 4y ago
    Why would you presume that by default? Need a quote to conclude that
    - jagrsw 4y ago
      It's widely presumed within faang-type-of companies that anything an employee says or does can be interpreted as an official company statement, especially by the press. As a result, many of these companies offer, often mandatory, trainings that underscore the importance of speaking carefully in public, since one's words can end up on the front page of a popular newspaper. Although I don't know how FB rolls internally, it seems more likely than not to me, that it was ack'd by someone higher up in the organization than line engineers or managers. Someone with a permission of speaking publicly for a given area of a company - doesn't need to be CEO, more like a VP/Director maybe.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - eiz 4y ago
      Here's a couple more quotes from Yann LeCun, their Chief AI Scientist: https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1643945742850031616 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1643945742850031616 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1644503237699969026 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1644503237699969026 pretty clear the non-release and extremely half assed response to the leak is just CYA
  - pharrington 4y ago

They have tacitly endorsed the leak. https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomment-1453872037 https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomme...

yieldcrv 4y ago

Only because publicly visible actions are worse for them People have gotten DMCA takedown requests from them over Llama repositories

greyface- 4y ago
If they were interested in limiting distribution, saying essentially "go ahead and seed this torrent more" is worse for them than doing nothing.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  I’ve actually beat the streisand effect before by not responding. The crowd gets bored and my DMCA requests flurry out a month later and all evidence disappears, individuals that might notice dont have the crowd to amplify that they noticed. You can call that “tacit consent” if you want. But streisand removes all leverage.
int_19h 4y ago
Are they going after copies of LLaMA, or after LLaMA derivatives specifically?
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733

Mathnerd314 4y ago

That's a contributor to the repo, not someone with commit access.

greyface- 4y ago
A contributor who is also a Facebook employee and co-author of the LLaMA paper, presumably speaking in official capacity.
- barbariangrunge 4y ago
  Why would you presume that by default? Need a quote to conclude that
  - jagrsw 4y ago
    It's widely presumed within faang-type-of companies that anything an employee says or does can be interpreted as an official company statement, especially by the press. As a result, many of these companies offer, often mandatory, trainings that underscore the importance of speaking carefully in public, since one's words can end up on the front page of a popular newspaper. Although I don't know how FB rolls internally, it seems more likely than not to me, that it was ack'd by someone higher up in the organization than line engineers or managers. Someone with a permission of speaking publicly for a given area of a company - doesn't need to be CEO, more like a VP/Director maybe.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - eiz 4y ago
    Here's a couple more quotes from Yann LeCun, their Chief AI Scientist: https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1643945742850031616 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1643945742850031616 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1644503237699969026 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1644503237699969026 pretty clear the non-release and extremely half assed response to the leak is just CYA
- pharrington 4y ago