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Dissidents no, but in terms of financial crime PRC pressure / focus largely on 10s of millions to billion tier, the obviously misbegotten gains that western cou

Dissidents no, but in terms of financial crime PRC pressure / focus largely on 10s of millions to billion tier, the obviously misbegotten gains that western court system would look retarded to pretend otherwise. Millions of PRC diasphora in the west, are we going to pretend they're all upstanding. PRC isn't generally wasting time on petty graft, and even then optics of cooperating with PRC is none starter. And when did I say other countries care about safeguarding PRC laws, clearly they don't because they benefit from it, including hosting dissidents who get weaponized for anti-PRC campaigns. Hence PRC resorts to grayzone methods like threatening consequences on PRC soil, which is valid tactic calibrated to not actually cross sovereignty lines in host country. There's likely a reason there's so many "investigations" into these sensational "police stations" while so few have actually been shut down. Meanwhile we don't hear about mass PRC agents being deported because most of the messengers are actually citizens who has right to act as intermediaries to activities that doesn't trip up on foreign agent politics.

qwytw 4y ago
> focus largely on 10s of millions to billion tier, the obviously misbegotten gains that western court system would look retarded to pretend otherwise Well yes, but they are only after the misbegotten gains of the people who currently don't have the favor of the party/Winnie-the-Pooh. So either western countries have to become tools for the Chinese "judicial system" or they have to start investigating these alleged crimes themselves to determine which are legit and which are political motivated (problem is that most are probably both...). Neither seems like a great option... Besides this I mostly agree on your take on this whole situation overall though.
- dirtyid 4y ago
  >don't have the favor of the party/Winnie-the-Pooh Operation Foxhunt criminals being harboured in west should get a pass just to stick it to CCP/Xi is pretty much why Guo Wengui happened. Let a known criminal swindle billion+ in US instead of working out deal to hand him to CCP after years of petitioning because... I don't even know. Ultimately extraditing even criminals to PRC too much of political shitshow in west, especially under current environment.

qwytw 4y ago

> focus largely on 10s of millions to billion tier, the obviously misbegotten gains that western court system would look retarded to pretend otherwise Well yes, but they are only after the misbegotten gains of the people who currently don't have the favor of the party/Winnie-the-Pooh. So either western countries have to become tools for the Chinese "judicial system" or they have to start investigating these alleged crimes themselves to determine which are legit and which are political motivated (problem is that most are probably both...). Neither seems like a great option... Besides this I mostly agree on your take on this whole situation overall though.

dirtyid 4y ago
>don't have the favor of the party/Winnie-the-Pooh Operation Foxhunt criminals being harboured in west should get a pass just to stick it to CCP/Xi is pretty much why Guo Wengui happened. Let a known criminal swindle billion+ in US instead of working out deal to hand him to CCP after years of petitioning because... I don't even know. Ultimately extraditing even criminals to PRC too much of political shitshow in west, especially under current environment.