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> Why would the US need a completely different solution? One reason is that the US is substantially more ethnically and culturally heterogenous than Finland or

> Why would the US need a completely different solution? One reason is that the US is substantially more ethnically and culturally heterogenous than Finland or France. This means that a one-size-fits-all approach is much more likely to work over there than in the US.

bombolo 4y ago
> One reason is that the US is substantially more ethnically and culturally heterogenous than Finland or France No it isn't… but USA needs to be exceptional so you believe it is :)
- gameman144 4y ago
  Finland is over 99% ethnically Finnish or Swedish. It's pretty outlandish to say that claims that America is more diverse than that are made solely in pursuit of some exceptionalism.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    So… 2 ethnicities which speak totally different languages… ignoring the sami, the refugees, the immigrants… all of whom have their own language and culture. Compare this with USA where there is 1 language.
    - gameman144 4y ago
      Alright, how about: 87% of residents of Finland are ethnically Finnish and speak Finnish and have Finnish heritage. Conversely, the most common USA racial group is non-Hispanic white (which groups many common languages/cultures, the most frequent of which are German/English/Polish/French). This group which is composed of all those different cultures comprises 60% of the US population. > Compare this with USA where there is 1 language. Nearly a quarter of American households speak a language besides English at home. It's fine to say "there are things we can learn even though we are not as culturally homogeneous". It's fine to argue "cultural homogeneity isn't as big a deal for these things". But it's simply inconsistent with reality to claim that the USA is less ethnically and culturally diverse than Finland.
      - 4dayworkweek4u 4y ago
        Finland probably also has a higher average [metric related to learning]... because of the direction the US is going in.

bombolo 4y ago

> One reason is that the US is substantially more ethnically and culturally heterogenous than Finland or France No it isn't… but USA needs to be exceptional so you believe it is :)

gameman144 4y ago
Finland is over 99% ethnically Finnish or Swedish. It's pretty outlandish to say that claims that America is more diverse than that are made solely in pursuit of some exceptionalism.
- bombolo 4y ago
  So… 2 ethnicities which speak totally different languages… ignoring the sami, the refugees, the immigrants… all of whom have their own language and culture. Compare this with USA where there is 1 language.
  - gameman144 4y ago
    Alright, how about: 87% of residents of Finland are ethnically Finnish and speak Finnish and have Finnish heritage. Conversely, the most common USA racial group is non-Hispanic white (which groups many common languages/cultures, the most frequent of which are German/English/Polish/French). This group which is composed of all those different cultures comprises 60% of the US population. > Compare this with USA where there is 1 language. Nearly a quarter of American households speak a language besides English at home. It's fine to say "there are things we can learn even though we are not as culturally homogeneous". It's fine to argue "cultural homogeneity isn't as big a deal for these things". But it's simply inconsistent with reality to claim that the USA is less ethnically and culturally diverse than Finland.
    - 4dayworkweek4u 4y ago
      Finland probably also has a higher average [metric related to learning]... because of the direction the US is going in.