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It’s incredible that an illegitimate government can take over the entire country in ten days whereas the legitimate one wasn’t sustainable after twenty years of
by xtian 4y ago
It’s incredible that an illegitimate government can take over the entire country in ten days whereas the legitimate one wasn’t sustainable after twenty years of military and economic support.
- beebmam 4y agoTurns out that Afghans as a whole don't believe much in traditional Liberalism! Whereas it seems like Ukrainians do.
- nortonham 4y agoMost people don't like their nation being invaded and seeing their families die. Why would Afghanis be any different?
- xtian 4y agoWhat’s the relevance of Ukraine?
- photochemsyn 4y agoDidn't much of the conflict in Ukraine from 2014 onwards arise from an effort to treat Russian-speaking Ukrainians as second-class citizens by the newly installed government? https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2014-010539_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2014-01053... For comparison, this would be like the U.S. government banning the use of Spanish or any other minority language, refusing to print translations of government documents in those languages, etc. Such a policy would certainly generate tension and resentment in areas like the Southwestern USA, and would be hard to characterize as 'liberal'. Of course, in the context of TAPI and Afghanistan, the Ukraine war is just part of the ongoing struggle over who gets to sell fossil fuels to Europe, i.e. Russian pipeline gas vs USA tanker LNG.
- throwaway6734 4y agoThe conflict in Ukraine is caused by Russia's imperialistic and colonial mindset towards the rest of eastern Europe. They invaded because a majority of Ukrainian peoples wanted closer relationships with Europe and to throw off the yoke of Russian authoritarianism.
- xtian 4y agoMajority? https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7158 https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7158
- throwaway6734 4y agoMajority https://www.iri.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy/iri.org/2014%20April%205%20IRI%20Public%20Opinion%20Survey%20of%20Ukraine,%20March%2014-26,%202014.pdf https://www.iri.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy/iri.org/2014%2...
- xtian 4y agoUS state-affiliated media https://www.iri.org/news/national-endowment-for-democracy-ned-ndi-iri-cipe-and-solidarity-center-welcome-increased-funding-from-congress/ https://www.iri.org/news/national-endowment-for-democracy-ne...
- throwaway6734 4y agoAre you disputing the results? They seem inline with the article you shared as well as the actions of the Ukrainian people since 2014. Russia's colonial relationship with the Ukrainian people has been disastrous and it is great to see them fighting against an imperialistic and genocidal regime.
- xtian 4y agoAre you disputing Russia’s position? It seems in line with the actions of the Ukrainians in the Donbas region since 2014. Edit, can’t reply: Russia’s position is that Crimea and Donbas republics had the right to secede due to the fact that Yanukovych was removed via illegal coup (organized by the US). Ukrainian sovereignty was forfeit when Yanukovych was removed despite insufficient parliamentary votes to do so according to the Ukrainian constitution. The Minsk agreements, meant to resolve these disputes, were not implemented, and now based on statements by European leaders we know they were never intended to be implemented.
- itsagavin 4y agoBecause "Afghanistan" only exists when the tribal autonomy is threatened otherwise Afghanistan has no real central government and it seems there is no will to be centrally governed. A completely different way of life the west continues to not understand. China will divide and conquer as it does in other similar regions just by making it too painful to not take their money when your local competition is.