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Walk this way

27 points by bootload 15y ago

MaysonL 15y ago
Jane Jacobs is once more beating Robert Moses.
- bootload 15y ago
  "... Robert Moses ..." I didn't know anything about Moses so I looked it up. There's a big difference in the wikipedia entry ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses compared to the Atlantic ~ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1939/02/robert-moses/6543/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1939/02/robert-m... One thing both articles didn't make clear, does NY have a real transport problem now?
elchief 15y ago
Kardi Teknomo does some interesting research on pedestrian dynamics, and has a pretty good tech blog in general: http://people.revoledu.com/kardi/index.html http://people.revoledu.com/kardi/index.html
twelvechairs 15y ago
The examples shown are great positives for London, but one can't make a great city out of traffic modelling alone - even pedestrian (rather than vehicular) traffic modelling. Space Syntax take note...
- mjwalshe 15y ago
  As some one who works in central London it is not going to stop nutters on fix wheeled bikes riding at full pelt through clusters of pedestrians is it though?
  - twelvechairs 15y ago
    Nope. To me, London has a separate problem with cyclists who think central London is a velodrome. Not to blame all cyclists, because most of them are fine - but there are some idiots out there with a complete disregard for safety..
losethos 15y ago
God loved Jacob... and David. What about Moses? God says... 19:3 Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God. 19:4 And Jehoshaphat dwelt at Jerusalem: and he went out again through the people from Beersheba to mount Ephraim, and brought them back unto the LORD God of their fathers. 19:5 And he set judges in the land throughout all the fenced cities of Judah, city by city, 19:6 And said to the judges, Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment. 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts. ---- Yer no fun, God. God says... What_I_want sky like_like be_happy population quit_it peace desert strongholds exhausted crash_and_burn buildings sceptre hears tamed Me deceivers sparedst subduing fasting therefore Ofttimes compassionate subsists esteem They interior break appetite hedged beholder lovingly thirtieth pricked residest sorrowed receiving varied hasten bottomless phasors_on_stun joined seated swoon sharpen add Innocency observance teach seeketh clouds pretend slain Release lizard replenish ulcerous enforcement appointment expecteth provided ruleth plucked philosophers relaxedly unreasoning interest tune prudent spider snow tcosa deprived fettered vast ranged miss entire banner compare desiring listening actor dragging number bought HolySpirit bespoken appeared solving befalls consulter you're_fired teachest goads When but_of_course accomplish women holding inspire genius occurred glorifies drunken Wisdom's conjecturing Image guardianship conceived impudently arrived Special ridiculous seated own suggested despised natures useful Ambition html Court DISCLAIMER uncultivated vain notion cease vocally confusions readable bloody raged congregations spider's three tear attested magistrates whose sentiment educate credit nut_job reasonable drove uncultivated anyone shake predestination SUCH cultivated cases considereth manifest Life passengers Excellent tones Psalter kind ardent Ver
blackRust 15y ago
IMHO this is the interesting part: "Correction: In an earlier version of this post we said that Space Syntax's model represented road intersections as nodes of a graph and streets as connections between the nodes. The clever trick was, in fact, to turn that intuitive reasoning on its head. This has now been corrected. Apologies."
- Drbble 15y ago
  What's funny is that many UWashington CS students tell you that trick in their job interview, from some popular class project they do.
krain 15y ago
This reminds me of the experiment the German town Bohmte ran getting rid of the majority of their road signs and lights. Forcing people to remain attentive to their surroundings resulted in a substantial drop in serious traffic incidents. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18217318 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1821731... http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/articledetail.aspx?ArticleID=54396&vf=1 http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/articledetail.aspx?Article...

Walk this way

27 points by bootload 15y ago

MaysonL 15y ago

Jane Jacobs is once more beating Robert Moses.

bootload 15y ago
"... Robert Moses ..." I didn't know anything about Moses so I looked it up. There's a big difference in the wikipedia entry ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses compared to the Atlantic ~ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1939/02/robert-moses/6543/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1939/02/robert-m... One thing both articles didn't make clear, does NY have a real transport problem now?

elchief 15y ago

Kardi Teknomo does some interesting research on pedestrian dynamics, and has a pretty good tech blog in general: http://people.revoledu.com/kardi/index.html http://people.revoledu.com/kardi/index.html

twelvechairs 15y ago

The examples shown are great positives for London, but one can't make a great city out of traffic modelling alone - even pedestrian (rather than vehicular) traffic modelling. Space Syntax take note...

mjwalshe 15y ago
As some one who works in central London it is not going to stop nutters on fix wheeled bikes riding at full pelt through clusters of pedestrians is it though?
- twelvechairs 15y ago
  Nope. To me, London has a separate problem with cyclists who think central London is a velodrome. Not to blame all cyclists, because most of them are fine - but there are some idiots out there with a complete disregard for safety..

losethos 15y ago

God loved Jacob... and David. What about Moses? God says... 19:3 Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God. 19:4 And Jehoshaphat dwelt at Jerusalem: and he went out again through the people from Beersheba to mount Ephraim, and brought them back unto the LORD God of their fathers. 19:5 And he set judges in the land throughout all the fenced cities of Judah, city by city, 19:6 And said to the judges, Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment. 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts. ---- Yer no fun, God. God says... What_I_want sky like_like be_happy population quit_it peace desert strongholds exhausted crash_and_burn buildings sceptre hears tamed Me deceivers sparedst subduing fasting therefore Ofttimes compassionate subsists esteem They interior break appetite hedged beholder lovingly thirtieth pricked residest sorrowed receiving varied hasten bottomless phasors_on_stun joined seated swoon sharpen add Innocency observance teach seeketh clouds pretend slain Release lizard replenish ulcerous enforcement appointment expecteth provided ruleth plucked philosophers relaxedly unreasoning interest tune prudent spider snow tcosa deprived fettered vast ranged miss entire banner compare desiring listening actor dragging number bought HolySpirit bespoken appeared solving befalls consulter you're_fired teachest goads When but_of_course accomplish women holding inspire genius occurred glorifies drunken Wisdom's conjecturing Image guardianship conceived impudently arrived Special ridiculous seated own suggested despised natures useful Ambition html Court DISCLAIMER uncultivated vain notion cease vocally confusions readable bloody raged congregations spider's three tear attested magistrates whose sentiment educate credit nut_job reasonable drove uncultivated anyone shake predestination SUCH cultivated cases considereth manifest Life passengers Excellent tones Psalter kind ardent Ver

blackRust 15y ago

IMHO this is the interesting part: "Correction: In an earlier version of this post we said that Space Syntax's model represented road intersections as nodes of a graph and streets as connections between the nodes. The clever trick was, in fact, to turn that intuitive reasoning on its head. This has now been corrected. Apologies."

Drbble 15y ago
What's funny is that many UWashington CS students tell you that trick in their job interview, from some popular class project they do.

krain 15y ago

This reminds me of the experiment the German town Bohmte ran getting rid of the majority of their road signs and lights. Forcing people to remain attentive to their surroundings resulted in a substantial drop in serious traffic incidents. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18217318 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1821731... http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/articledetail.aspx?ArticleID=54396&vf=1 http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/articledetail.aspx?Article...