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And then there is also this https://www.ft.com/content/5e6f15ce-9eda-4b04-883d-686617020a0b https://www.ft.com/content/5e6f15ce-9eda-4b04-883d-686617020... --

And then there is also this https://www.ft.com/content/5e6f15ce-9eda-4b04-883d-686617020a0b https://www.ft.com/content/5e6f15ce-9eda-4b04-883d-686617020... -- cheating on ethics exams by EY. It's all very funny that the whole system is built on assumption where the supposedly knowledgeable, ethical experts audit companies, but in reality, it nowhere close to that.

catchnear4321 4y ago
if only this were limited to ethics and compliance. expertise is a virtue in modern society. signaling it well is often easier and more successful than developing and maintaining it. damn lucrative, too. this is why we can’t have nice things.
- pts_ 4y ago
  It starts with interviews which select you based on how well you speak instead of what you speak.
  - oezi 4y ago
    They interview you on whether you were interviewed before.
version_five 4y ago
"Cheating on ethics exam" sounds bad but it amounts to not taking some boring corporate CYA compliance training seriously, it's not actually unethical in my opinion. If anything it speaks to how bad corporate training is generally, not the ethics of the people "cheating".
- appleiigs 4y ago
  Probably similar to you, I couldn't read the FT article because it's behind a paywall; however, I'm familiar with the general story. It's not some corporate training. They, plus many other accounting firms, cheated on professional licensing exams. Egregious because the accounting firms are doing the opposite of their sole purpose - add trust to the financial system.
koops 4y ago
They cheated on the ethics exam, THEN they lied about their cheating.