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What about brake dust? In Manhattan I’d shower, take the train to work, immediately go wipe my face in the bathroom with a damp paper towel and the paper would
by user3939382 4y ago
What about brake dust?
In Manhattan I’d shower, take the train to work, immediately go wipe my face in the bathroom with a damp paper towel and the paper would have black smudges all over it.
Imagine the long term health implications scaled up to the whole population.
- mhb 4y ago> Imagine the long term health implications scaled up to the whole population. Compared to what?
- mort96 4y agoCompared to not having the fine particulate matter in our lungs for our whole lives probably?
- mhb 4y agoVery good. And what about in the real world where there might just be some benefit that offsets this cost?
- user3939382 4y agoThe benefit that offsets so much pollution your face goes from clean to dirty from 15 minutes of walking around? Maybe in the “real world” we should discuss solutions rather than conjure up excuses to accept major problems.
- mort96 4y agoWhat are you on about? Before we can even start discussing any sort of cost/benefit analysis, we need to know what the costs are and what the benefits are, no? You seem to be offended by the idea of even inquiring about the costs, which is what the "Imagine the long term health implications" comment is trying to discuss. Are you trying to say that you have already done this cost/benefit calculation and decided that there is nothing which can be done to improve the situation? If not, what are you trying to say?
- mhb 4y agoAn anodyne comment like "imagine the long term health implications" is not discussing anything. If you have some alternative which does less harm and the cost/benefit is better, that would be something worth reading.
- mort96 4y agoWe should be imagining the long-term health implications. We should be considering the costs of these things. If you don't want to think about it, you don't have to, just stay out of comment threads about it. If you want some reading material about solutions though, there's a lot of stuff out there about reducing car reliance. Building proper public transport infrastructure, building walkable and bikeable cities, that sort of stuff. Keeping the advantages of easy and efficient transportation, while alleviating some of the disadvantages. I can suggest some if you want?
- Rufbdbskrufb473 4y agoIs most of that brake dust or from tire wear?
- grepfru_it 4y agoNYC subway trains don't use rubber tires
- davidmurdoch 4y agoManhattan is obviously an unhealthy place to spend any consistent amount of time, no?
- medler 4y agoManhattanites tend to be healthier than pretty much any other Americans. It would be logical to conclude that Manhattan is the healthiest place to spend your time.
- schiffern 4y agoManhattanites also tend to be richer than other Americans. If we're being "logical" we would control for confounding variables.
- davidmurdoch 4y agoI didn't know that. Thanks for sharing. I suspect eating well and walking are the primary factors here though, not the air quality.
- LeanderK 4y agothere must be some way to manage this since I can't recall this to happen in the subways I've used (mostly munich, germany). Or I imagine what you describe a bit more dramatic than you've meant it to be
- 6510 4y agohttps://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/london-underground-pollution https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/london-underground-pollution