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what's weird is that when I requested my I-94 record from the CBP, it contained mistakes that didn't have matching entries and exits. It's really not as clean a

what's weird is that when I requested my I-94 record from the CBP, it contained mistakes that didn't have matching entries and exits. It's really not as clean as you would expect from a paranoid country.

flemhans 4y ago
Can you still exit to Mexico via unattended turnstile? That means the US wouldn't always have a record of the exit date.
- grishka 4y ago
  When I visited the US I was surprised that there's no passport control on departure. Like, at all. I even thought we somehow went wrong way when we got to the gates after TSA, but nope. We asked an employee and were told that that's the way it is in the US. UK is also like that.
  - zarzavat 4y ago
    At least in the UK, it’s for two reasons: 1. Many older terminal buildings were designed without any space for exit controls. By the time they realized they would need exit controls (relatively recently) they realized they could just slurp the data from the airlines’ systems instead. 2. Immigration is chronically understaffed. The government would need to double the number of employees, which is never going to happen.
    - grishka 4y ago
      But how does it work when one isn't allowed to leave the country for whatever reason?
- nraynaud 4y ago
  I don't know I've always used an airplane, so this is out of my hands, it's all between the airline and CBP.
Taniwha 4y ago
One of the big problems with the US is that unlike any other country they don't have exit procedures, there's nowhere you go and get your passport stamped, if the airline or the immigration officials screw up you have no proof you have left, and no way to know that they've screwed up ..... there are tons of stories of people who have visited the US a second time and been detained by INS ... the whole thing is some monkey-arsed setup
- kevviiinn 4y ago
  That's because all of the political capital is focused on keeping people out
  - Taniwha 4y ago
    Actually I think it's because they don't want to spend the money to create sanitised international departure spaces. It's a mistake that means that one can't transit through the US without passing through US immigration (which typically takes hours). Hong Kong which I pass through a lot is more like a train station, you can get off of one plane and onto another in an hour or two, just have to pass through a bag check. This means that non-US people choose to fly through other countries, on other countrys' airlines just because the US is an impassible bloc for many

flemhans 4y ago

Can you still exit to Mexico via unattended turnstile? That means the US wouldn't always have a record of the exit date.

grishka 4y ago
When I visited the US I was surprised that there's no passport control on departure. Like, at all. I even thought we somehow went wrong way when we got to the gates after TSA, but nope. We asked an employee and were told that that's the way it is in the US. UK is also like that.
- zarzavat 4y ago
  At least in the UK, it’s for two reasons: 1. Many older terminal buildings were designed without any space for exit controls. By the time they realized they would need exit controls (relatively recently) they realized they could just slurp the data from the airlines’ systems instead. 2. Immigration is chronically understaffed. The government would need to double the number of employees, which is never going to happen.
  - grishka 4y ago
    But how does it work when one isn't allowed to leave the country for whatever reason?
nraynaud 4y ago
I don't know I've always used an airplane, so this is out of my hands, it's all between the airline and CBP.

Taniwha 4y ago

One of the big problems with the US is that unlike any other country they don't have exit procedures, there's nowhere you go and get your passport stamped, if the airline or the immigration officials screw up you have no proof you have left, and no way to know that they've screwed up ..... there are tons of stories of people who have visited the US a second time and been detained by INS ... the whole thing is some monkey-arsed setup

kevviiinn 4y ago
That's because all of the political capital is focused on keeping people out
- Taniwha 4y ago
  Actually I think it's because they don't want to spend the money to create sanitised international departure spaces. It's a mistake that means that one can't transit through the US without passing through US immigration (which typically takes hours). Hong Kong which I pass through a lot is more like a train station, you can get off of one plane and onto another in an hour or two, just have to pass through a bag check. This means that non-US people choose to fly through other countries, on other countrys' airlines just because the US is an impassible bloc for many