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The only thing I can think of when I read posts like that is the early days when crypto started to take off. Its near the peak of the hype, but not quite there

The only thing I can think of when I read posts like that is the early days when crypto started to take off. Its near the peak of the hype, but not quite there yet. People may make drastic life changes due to AI soon. People will keep claiming its the future, and everyone else is just blind. It'll be compared to the industrial revolution (or similar). It may take a while, and AI will always be around in products, but the hype will die down, and it'll be just another piece of tech. And all these silly hype people, with there "INSANE CRAZY THINGS IN AI THIS WEEK!!! TRULY CRAZY!" will move on to the next well-marketed mediocre tech idea. Dont compare this to smartphones, or to the internet. LLMs are more like the invention of the "makeup application robot", or the invention of those weird animatronics that look super realistic. I wonder when the discussion about the climate impact of LLMs will start - just to draw more parallels to the overhyped crypto bubble. Im glad you guys are having fun, I guess. Just dont make drastic life changes based on LLMs existing.

gremlinsinc 4y ago
Except, crypto honestly seemed like it had utility but really didn't... I've had this thing just create pretty decent youtube shorts with zero knowledge or very little advice on how to do it, and also tweets, instagram posts, etc... it's now working on creating direct to etsy store items from midjourney using 'tiled layouts', digital downloads for paper/etc... The people in charge of both of these projects are using it to also actually continually improve itself. The one dude isn't a developer and doesn't know how to code, he's a VC. That's insane by itself. I've been through hype trains, but this is more foundational/bigger than anything we've experienced. Even without AGI we could create a single software that can deliver any layout a user wants, any outputs, from any inputs... it's an accounting software, ERP, CRM, Paintshop, etc... everything one app, because you don't even need to write functions, simply writing the function name and it's attributes is enough for the AI to figure it out.
- lionkor 4y ago
  I just see zero actual value in something anyone can make, like midjourney art.
  - nofilk 4y ago
    What about the value of people being able to do things they previously never could? I personally know people saving 30+ hours and thousands because they no longer need to employ others to do work for them. They simply prompt chatgpt. Hell, I even use it to generate website copy for clients and it's basically an instant result. LLMs and crypto shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence in terms of use cases
  - gremlinsinc 4y ago
    What about an autogpt, that essentially becomes a 'replicator' for software? Think about it, one company, one software that can do anything, be anything from an ERP system to a CRM, etc... people want different ui/ux? It can know using A/B testing/analytics exactly what ui/ux YOU want and give you a personalized one, no big deal. It can be a specialized software for real estate or the auto sales industry etc, all while training it's replacement in the background. We're not far from having something like this, there's value in that to the person probably who creates it, but crypto never had the reach that AI has in the ways it could disrupt society for better or worse.
- antibasilisk 4y ago
  >Except, crypto honestly seemed like it had utility but really didn't... But crypto does have utility, in countries like Lebanon and Iran, there are people who are only able to live comfortably thanks to their ability to receive Monero in exchange for their work
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    The utility doesn’t come anywhere close to the hype. Unless you live in a war zone, you can completely ignore crypto.
    - antibasilisk 4y ago
      You're right that it doesn't match the hype, but the idea that it doesn't have any use outside of war zones is just demonstrably false.
more_corn 4y ago
“Weird animatronics” That description is perfect in so many ways. I love it. Also they can do most peoples jobs better, faster, and more reliably than a person can. Maybe we need to add “effective” so the description better captures what they are. I used ChatGPT to write some bash code on Thursday. It took about five seconds. Would have taken me a couple hours to go look up the syntax I needed for the api I was connecting to. It wasn’t great, but it was good. It was fast and it was cheap. I speced out (specked? How do you even spell that word. Maybe it’s not a word but you get it) some code for a couple remote teams. I basically wanted them to do small half hour tasks so we could measure progress towards a deadline. All of the remote teams took longer and produced worse results than simply pasting my tickets in gpt as prompts. You’re right. They’re weird robots. But they’re good at stuff and that changes things. What specifically does it change? All the things they’re good at. What are they good at? Everything. What does computer science look like in a world where auto-generated code is good enough? I don’t know, but I’m reluctant to say “exactly how it looked ten years ago”. The hype is real. But there’s something solid obscured behind the swirling mists. I don’t know precisely how the future will look but I expect your naysaying might age poorly.
- lionkor 4y ago
  Of course they are useful, but they arent replacing jobs with any meaningful creational spirit, if you will. They help, yes, like the invention of autocomplete or google, but theyre not nuking as many jobs as the hype suggests.

gremlinsinc 4y ago

Except, crypto honestly seemed like it had utility but really didn't... I've had this thing just create pretty decent youtube shorts with zero knowledge or very little advice on how to do it, and also tweets, instagram posts, etc... it's now working on creating direct to etsy store items from midjourney using 'tiled layouts', digital downloads for paper/etc... The people in charge of both of these projects are using it to also actually continually improve itself. The one dude isn't a developer and doesn't know how to code, he's a VC. That's insane by itself. I've been through hype trains, but this is more foundational/bigger than anything we've experienced. Even without AGI we could create a single software that can deliver any layout a user wants, any outputs, from any inputs... it's an accounting software, ERP, CRM, Paintshop, etc... everything one app, because you don't even need to write functions, simply writing the function name and it's attributes is enough for the AI to figure it out.

lionkor 4y ago
I just see zero actual value in something anyone can make, like midjourney art.
- nofilk 4y ago
  What about the value of people being able to do things they previously never could? I personally know people saving 30+ hours and thousands because they no longer need to employ others to do work for them. They simply prompt chatgpt. Hell, I even use it to generate website copy for clients and it's basically an instant result. LLMs and crypto shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence in terms of use cases
- gremlinsinc 4y ago
  What about an autogpt, that essentially becomes a 'replicator' for software? Think about it, one company, one software that can do anything, be anything from an ERP system to a CRM, etc... people want different ui/ux? It can know using A/B testing/analytics exactly what ui/ux YOU want and give you a personalized one, no big deal. It can be a specialized software for real estate or the auto sales industry etc, all while training it's replacement in the background. We're not far from having something like this, there's value in that to the person probably who creates it, but crypto never had the reach that AI has in the ways it could disrupt society for better or worse.
antibasilisk 4y ago
>Except, crypto honestly seemed like it had utility but really didn't... But crypto does have utility, in countries like Lebanon and Iran, there are people who are only able to live comfortably thanks to their ability to receive Monero in exchange for their work
- Gigachad 4y ago
  The utility doesn’t come anywhere close to the hype. Unless you live in a war zone, you can completely ignore crypto.
  - antibasilisk 4y ago
    You're right that it doesn't match the hype, but the idea that it doesn't have any use outside of war zones is just demonstrably false.

more_corn 4y ago

“Weird animatronics” That description is perfect in so many ways. I love it. Also they can do most peoples jobs better, faster, and more reliably than a person can. Maybe we need to add “effective” so the description better captures what they are. I used ChatGPT to write some bash code on Thursday. It took about five seconds. Would have taken me a couple hours to go look up the syntax I needed for the api I was connecting to. It wasn’t great, but it was good. It was fast and it was cheap. I speced out (specked? How do you even spell that word. Maybe it’s not a word but you get it) some code for a couple remote teams. I basically wanted them to do small half hour tasks so we could measure progress towards a deadline. All of the remote teams took longer and produced worse results than simply pasting my tickets in gpt as prompts. You’re right. They’re weird robots. But they’re good at stuff and that changes things. What specifically does it change? All the things they’re good at. What are they good at? Everything. What does computer science look like in a world where auto-generated code is good enough? I don’t know, but I’m reluctant to say “exactly how it looked ten years ago”. The hype is real. But there’s something solid obscured behind the swirling mists. I don’t know precisely how the future will look but I expect your naysaying might age poorly.

lionkor 4y ago
Of course they are useful, but they arent replacing jobs with any meaningful creational spirit, if you will. They help, yes, like the invention of autocomplete or google, but theyre not nuking as many jobs as the hype suggests.