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In the debate of "can generative AI make Art", this is Art, but the artist is the person steering the AI tools to create this. Love it.

khochesh_kushat 4y ago
I wonder if you could make an AI that could generate likely meme ideas and then remove people from the equation completely. Seems pretty doable, if not already possible.
- mckirk 4y ago
  The problem is that memes, at least the ones that really take off, work because they are creative and funny, and so far that is probably the area AIs like GPT4 struggle the most with. It makes sense when you think about it, a technology that is built around the idea of predicting likely continuations will struggle with learning what is 'likely' in a context that asks for an element of surprise. I.e., you'd probably need a pretty deep model if you want it to be able to understand that 'okay usually I combine likely concepts, but _now_ I need to combine unlikely concepts that still make sense together on a lower level'.
  - khochesh_kushat 4y ago
    GPT4 can definitely write jokes, even today
jackstraw14 4y ago
same as it ever was!
jqacn 4y ago
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- jackstraw14 4y ago
  > This is worse than any movie or even any commercial. I guess a rotting shark probably is too. What is art anyway? https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/apr/09/new-allegations-of-plagiarism-against-roy-lichtenstein https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/apr/09/new-all...
  - samwillis 4y ago
    Exactly, all the conversations about AI art are very reminiscent of the debate about the YBA movement of the late 80s and 90s. (And many a debate before that) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_British_Artists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_British_Artists
    - kevviiinn 4y ago
      People seem to love trying to define what art is when it's entirely subjective. Even people who study art and film do it, I think that trying to define what makes art art and trying to exclude things that someone else thinks is artful is nonsense. It's just more ingroup outgroup junk
- MaxikCZ 4y ago
  > zero emotions > painful to watch Choose one
rozab 4y ago
This has all the artistic value of an advice animal template

khochesh_kushat 4y ago

I wonder if you could make an AI that could generate likely meme ideas and then remove people from the equation completely. Seems pretty doable, if not already possible.

mckirk 4y ago
The problem is that memes, at least the ones that really take off, work because they are creative and funny, and so far that is probably the area AIs like GPT4 struggle the most with. It makes sense when you think about it, a technology that is built around the idea of predicting likely continuations will struggle with learning what is 'likely' in a context that asks for an element of surprise. I.e., you'd probably need a pretty deep model if you want it to be able to understand that 'okay usually I combine likely concepts, but _now_ I need to combine unlikely concepts that still make sense together on a lower level'.
- khochesh_kushat 4y ago
  GPT4 can definitely write jokes, even today

jackstraw14 4y ago

same as it ever was!

jqacn 4y ago

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jackstraw14 4y ago
> This is worse than any movie or even any commercial. I guess a rotting shark probably is too. What is art anyway? https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/apr/09/new-allegations-of-plagiarism-against-roy-lichtenstein https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/apr/09/new-all...
- samwillis 4y ago
  Exactly, all the conversations about AI art are very reminiscent of the debate about the YBA movement of the late 80s and 90s. (And many a debate before that) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_British_Artists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_British_Artists
  - kevviiinn 4y ago
    People seem to love trying to define what art is when it's entirely subjective. Even people who study art and film do it, I think that trying to define what makes art art and trying to exclude things that someone else thinks is artful is nonsense. It's just more ingroup outgroup junk
MaxikCZ 4y ago
> zero emotions > painful to watch Choose one

rozab 4y ago

This has all the artistic value of an advice animal template