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>it's more like devices should consider security holistically and only offer an API that is secure I am not against this, this would be ideal. >Hacker News

>it's more like devices should consider security holistically and only offer an API that is secure I am not against this, this would be ideal. >Hacker News doesn't allow any users to edit any other's comment Those comments are not yours, so this is a false analogy. I am talking about something that is technically possible and within your own device. >Just because an attack may be niche it doesn't mean that the vulnerability should be ignored True, but I also believe that preventing the users from fully using their devices is not good, providing an API like you said would be the perfect solution. >Because the drive should be encrypted The average user doesn't know about drive enryption.

Godel_unicode 4y ago
> The average user doesn't know about drive enryption. Nor should they. Good news though, it’s on by default in any recent Windows which supports it. So a great many millions of users are using it without needing to know or care.
- salawat 4y ago
  Bullshit. The User should be able to get at every implementation detail. These things should be discoverable. A tech that cannot be learned except by some esoteric priesthood is a failed tech.
  - blep_ 4y ago
    > it’s on by default in any recent Windows which supports it A tech that just works automatically without having to learn it seems even better. But I suspect it's not actually that hard to find; users just have no reason to care.
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charcircuit 4y ago
>Those comments are not yours, so this is a false analogy It was an example of showing a capability exposed to users designed with security in mind. Mods being able to edit posts on forums despite not "owning" them is a normal feature. A better example for this site specifically would be submission titles. >The average user doesn't know about drive enryption. All major consumer operating systems Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android use drive encryption by default. Users don't need to know about it to be protected by it.

Godel_unicode 4y ago

> The average user doesn't know about drive enryption. Nor should they. Good news though, it’s on by default in any recent Windows which supports it. So a great many millions of users are using it without needing to know or care.

salawat 4y ago
Bullshit. The User should be able to get at every implementation detail. These things should be discoverable. A tech that cannot be learned except by some esoteric priesthood is a failed tech.
- blep_ 4y ago
  > it’s on by default in any recent Windows which supports it A tech that just works automatically without having to learn it seems even better. But I suspect it's not actually that hard to find; users just have no reason to care.
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charcircuit 4y ago

>Those comments are not yours, so this is a false analogy It was an example of showing a capability exposed to users designed with security in mind. Mods being able to edit posts on forums despite not "owning" them is a normal feature. A better example for this site specifically would be submission titles. >The average user doesn't know about drive enryption. All major consumer operating systems Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android use drive encryption by default. Users don't need to know about it to be protected by it.