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My conclusion is there’s nothing, literally nothing, that can be done regulation-wise because when has regulation done anything proactively in the US since the

My conclusion is there’s nothing, literally nothing, that can be done regulation-wise because when has regulation done anything proactively in the US since the 1970s? Even when children are killed or entire towns polluted, the _reactive_ regulation and efforts are at best face saving and short sighted. So we are pretty much left to the vagaries of free market capitalism and quirks of nature and what true AI will determine its own purpose to be, to see how the next few years and decades are going to be. I am converging on a separate topic, viz. existence of aliens in this regard. I’ve always thought that super intelligent aliens will have nothing to need from us or this planet (unless there’s some magical life force they need to extract from sentient living things), but I did conclude the one use they could have is mere observation of how we evolve for academic purposes. In that regard, this moment is indeed pivotal in history so now would be the time to check the skies and see if flying saucers are observing how we are dealing with it lol.

ChatGTP 4y ago
I’m not advocating for authoritarianism but at some stage it will become a national security issue. You cannot have people building robotic assault weapons in their garage then unleashing them on the public. This won’t be far off now we’re getting closer to solving computer vision. At some stage no one would be safe, the good bots will be in danger and so too the public.
- sslayer 4y ago
  Pandora's box has already been opened. There is no way any government could prevent what is coming.
  - ChatGTP 4y ago
    Let’s make this more constructive, why is there nothing that can’t be done ? If we really as a civilisation wanted to avoid catastrophe do you really think at this stage we couldn’t pull back ? We’re on hacker news, you need to be creative and be a hacker, but just a person who likes the Internet. If people start using ChatGPT-5 to hack critical infrastructure and take down power grids, do we just give up and die ? Or adapt ? I’m going to float a pretty controversial idea…the technology we have today is an experiment, the digital world. Humans can survive without it. Already it’s causing problems such as the spread of misinformation, addiction and social division. There is nothing to say that we can’t unwind a lot of it endangers our futures. Technology is supposed to be a tool to help us out, it’s not supposed to endanger our lives. Clearly it’s out of control and causing a lot of anxiety, we’re moving quicker than we can adapt and that’s also not good for technological progress either, so we’re on the wrong path. Edit: Have a read of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/12by8mj/i_used_autogpt_and_babyagi_today_we_are_not_ready/ https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/12by8mj/i_used... , if we don’t tear ourselves apart, there’s a good chance the backbone of the Internet will be torn apart long before much else happens.
    - BoorishBears 4y ago
      "If people start using ChatGPT-5 to hack critical infrastructure and take down power grids, do we just give up and die ? Or adapt ?" Why do I keep hearing stuff like this? First off, if ChatGPT-5 comes out and makes hacking critical infrastructure and taking down power grids easy, what makes you think its ability to counter that by hardening systems won't go up too? And second, what makes you think that ease is the main thing stopping people from committing terrorism? We know that you can cause widespread and long lasting damage by firing at a fragile metal boxes that take months to replace and affects the ability to power entire regions. There's something to be said about not needing to be physically there... but fear of getting caught is not really what keeps people from being terrorists. The fact is for all the unfounded pessimism the 24 hour news cycle has birthed, people just generally don't want to take down power grids, even for fun, or even if it's easy, our just out of curiosity. - There are reasonable angles if you want to argue for responsible AI, "it's going to turn people into terrorists" is not one of them.
      - ChatGTP 4y ago
        Yes but for the people who do want to be terrorists, you now have a much much more powerful weapon in order to inflict damage with no ? How many autogpt scripts have you seen that upgrade the security of critical infrastructure ?
        BoorishBears 4y ago
        How many autogpt scripts can trivialize taking down the power grid? At that point why are you imagining we have something like the current power grid? We'd have a tool that's drive massive advancements that trivialize decentralized power generation, reduce scarcity, find cures for mental illness, improve equality. People need to really expand their understanding of how this will disrupt human existence if it can actually reach that point. It's like imagining what would happen if you gave the roman nuclear warheads instead of what would happen if you gave them all of modern technology
        4y ago

ChatGTP 4y ago

I’m not advocating for authoritarianism but at some stage it will become a national security issue. You cannot have people building robotic assault weapons in their garage then unleashing them on the public. This won’t be far off now we’re getting closer to solving computer vision. At some stage no one would be safe, the good bots will be in danger and so too the public.

sslayer 4y ago
Pandora's box has already been opened. There is no way any government could prevent what is coming.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  Let’s make this more constructive, why is there nothing that can’t be done ? If we really as a civilisation wanted to avoid catastrophe do you really think at this stage we couldn’t pull back ? We’re on hacker news, you need to be creative and be a hacker, but just a person who likes the Internet. If people start using ChatGPT-5 to hack critical infrastructure and take down power grids, do we just give up and die ? Or adapt ? I’m going to float a pretty controversial idea…the technology we have today is an experiment, the digital world. Humans can survive without it. Already it’s causing problems such as the spread of misinformation, addiction and social division. There is nothing to say that we can’t unwind a lot of it endangers our futures. Technology is supposed to be a tool to help us out, it’s not supposed to endanger our lives. Clearly it’s out of control and causing a lot of anxiety, we’re moving quicker than we can adapt and that’s also not good for technological progress either, so we’re on the wrong path. Edit: Have a read of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/12by8mj/i_used_autogpt_and_babyagi_today_we_are_not_ready/ https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/12by8mj/i_used... , if we don’t tear ourselves apart, there’s a good chance the backbone of the Internet will be torn apart long before much else happens.
  - BoorishBears 4y ago
    "If people start using ChatGPT-5 to hack critical infrastructure and take down power grids, do we just give up and die ? Or adapt ?" Why do I keep hearing stuff like this? First off, if ChatGPT-5 comes out and makes hacking critical infrastructure and taking down power grids easy, what makes you think its ability to counter that by hardening systems won't go up too? And second, what makes you think that ease is the main thing stopping people from committing terrorism? We know that you can cause widespread and long lasting damage by firing at a fragile metal boxes that take months to replace and affects the ability to power entire regions. There's something to be said about not needing to be physically there... but fear of getting caught is not really what keeps people from being terrorists. The fact is for all the unfounded pessimism the 24 hour news cycle has birthed, people just generally don't want to take down power grids, even for fun, or even if it's easy, our just out of curiosity. - There are reasonable angles if you want to argue for responsible AI, "it's going to turn people into terrorists" is not one of them.
    - ChatGTP 4y ago
      Yes but for the people who do want to be terrorists, you now have a much much more powerful weapon in order to inflict damage with no ? How many autogpt scripts have you seen that upgrade the security of critical infrastructure ?
      - BoorishBears 4y ago
        How many autogpt scripts can trivialize taking down the power grid? At that point why are you imagining we have something like the current power grid? We'd have a tool that's drive massive advancements that trivialize decentralized power generation, reduce scarcity, find cures for mental illness, improve equality. People need to really expand their understanding of how this will disrupt human existence if it can actually reach that point. It's like imagining what would happen if you gave the roman nuclear warheads instead of what would happen if you gave them all of modern technology
        4y ago