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I think that's a great point and one of the problems that I have with some of the "learn everyday" info linked on hn. People think there are clear answers to t

by larrys 15y ago

I think that's a great point and one of the problems that I have with some of the "learn everyday" info linked on hn. People think there are clear answers to things that in retrospect seem right or wrong decisions after things play out. Those 10,000 shares of Msft? Well what if you were working for Eagle Computer (I owned one of those and remember that day very well) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Computer

joshu 15y ago
There's more to it than financial considerations. People who accept counters are usually gone in a year anyway - they'd already decided to go, management has written them off in their minds, something like that.
- angstrom 15y ago
  Looking for the stat, but it's at least an 80% chance they'll be gone in 2 years; either of their own accord or the company's. So if your boss ever pulls one of these maneuvers either get on their boss's good side or start looking for work yourself because there's about to be a shuffle.
  - reinhardt 15y ago
    80% chance of leaving within 2 years? How far is this from the average stay in any given job in IT these days? Except for my first job that I stayed for 3.5 years (mostly out of necessity at the time), all my others have been less than 2 years, be it by my own will, the company's will or both.
    - angstrom 15y ago
      Good point, I was thinking about that not long after I posted it. I think it had more to do with management shuffles than employee shuffles. Most stats I can find state it as 80-90% leaving in 6 months to 1 year which sounds right, often resuming their job hunt 90 days after receiving the counter. Counters rarely make sense. There's probably exceptions, but I've never seen any.
- larrys 15y ago
  Reminds me a little about when someone wants to break up with their partner and the partner tries to get them to stay. Usually by the time someone wants to leave things are just broken and to late to fix.

by larrys 15y ago

joshu 15y ago

There's more to it than financial considerations. People who accept counters are usually gone in a year anyway - they'd already decided to go, management has written them off in their minds, something like that.

angstrom 15y ago
Looking for the stat, but it's at least an 80% chance they'll be gone in 2 years; either of their own accord or the company's. So if your boss ever pulls one of these maneuvers either get on their boss's good side or start looking for work yourself because there's about to be a shuffle.
- reinhardt 15y ago
  80% chance of leaving within 2 years? How far is this from the average stay in any given job in IT these days? Except for my first job that I stayed for 3.5 years (mostly out of necessity at the time), all my others have been less than 2 years, be it by my own will, the company's will or both.
  - angstrom 15y ago
    Good point, I was thinking about that not long after I posted it. I think it had more to do with management shuffles than employee shuffles. Most stats I can find state it as 80-90% leaving in 6 months to 1 year which sounds right, often resuming their job hunt 90 days after receiving the counter. Counters rarely make sense. There's probably exceptions, but I've never seen any.
larrys 15y ago
Reminds me a little about when someone wants to break up with their partner and the partner tries to get them to stay. Usually by the time someone wants to leave things are just broken and to late to fix.