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"China, Taiwan Straight, 2025" has been a mantra since at least 2004.

pphysch 4y ago
The neocons thought they would get an Iran war long before 2025. Instead they got Beijing brokering peace between Tehran and Riyadh, and an increasingly unstable Tel Aviv.
- alephnerd 4y ago
  The Iran-Saudi talks have been overstated in American media. All they really are is the reopening of diplomatic communications between Iran and the KSA (aka a return to the 2014-15 time period) [0][1]. In essence, it's Saudi admitting they lost the War in Yemen [4] (which btw was projected to occur around now years ago) [5] The core Saudi-Iran national security concerns continue to persist with continued conflicts between both countries partners inside Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. [0][1] The moment Iran gets the bomb, Saudi and the UAE would readily enter a hot war with Iran. This is a big reason the KSA and UAE are pushing forward defense pacts with Israel [2][3] [0] https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/13/china-middle-east-deal-00086888 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/13/china-middle-east-d... [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/china-saudi-iran-deal-00090856 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/china-saudi-iran-de... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/israel-steps-up-talks-with-saudi-arabia-over-ties-to-combat-iran#xj4y7vzkg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/israel-st... [3] https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/21/saudi-mbs-biden-israel-security-washington-riyadh/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/21/saudi-mbs-biden-israel-... [4] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-led-coalition-lifts-more-restrictions-yemens-imports-2023-04-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-led-coalitio... [5] https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/04/18/saudi-arabia-looks-for-an-exit-to-the-war-in-yemen https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/04/18/...

The neocons thought they would get an Iran war long before 2025. Instead they got Beijing brokering peace between Tehran and Riyadh, and an increasingly unstable Tel Aviv.

alephnerd 4y ago
The Iran-Saudi talks have been overstated in American media. All they really are is the reopening of diplomatic communications between Iran and the KSA (aka a return to the 2014-15 time period) [0][1]. In essence, it's Saudi admitting they lost the War in Yemen [4] (which btw was projected to occur around now years ago) [5] The core Saudi-Iran national security concerns continue to persist with continued conflicts between both countries partners inside Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. [0][1] The moment Iran gets the bomb, Saudi and the UAE would readily enter a hot war with Iran. This is a big reason the KSA and UAE are pushing forward defense pacts with Israel [2][3] [0] https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/13/china-middle-east-deal-00086888 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/13/china-middle-east-d... [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/china-saudi-iran-deal-00090856 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/china-saudi-iran-de... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/israel-steps-up-talks-with-saudi-arabia-over-ties-to-combat-iran#xj4y7vzkg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/israel-st... [3] https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/21/saudi-mbs-biden-israel-security-washington-riyadh/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/21/saudi-mbs-biden-israel-... [4] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-led-coalition-lifts-more-restrictions-yemens-imports-2023-04-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-led-coalitio... [5] https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/04/18/saudi-arabia-looks-for-an-exit-to-the-war-in-yemen https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/04/18/...