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If it doesn't work for you, then you should work on finding out why not and what does work. It's also why I definitely recommend therapy. But most people just a

by Sakos 4y ago

If it doesn't work for you, then you should work on finding out why not and what does work. It's also why I definitely recommend therapy. But most people just accept that they can't change or improve and that's that. Being judged for recommending meditation is weird. I bounced off of meditation too. I don't actively practice it nowadays. I think at a certain point in my life, it wasn't helpful at all because of where I was psychologically and emotionally. It was way too painful. However, I learned from that experience, and I do think it was a valuable experience that led me to CBT, and tried different things. I find your comment far more toxic and encouraging of doing nothing. How about you not blame people? I don't. Everybody is on their own journey and that's okay. If somebody feels meditation doesn't work for them, that's fine. Maybe something else will. However, I do feel that it's a universal skill that can benefit everybody. If somebody is unwilling or unable to train it, that's totally fine. I won't force anything on anybody or judge them for it. As an individual, it's up to you to make your own choices and decide what's best for you. All I can do is share my experience and my advice.

ajb 4y ago
I'm happy that it works for you. This has been a very controversial comment, but a lot of people who disagree are reading things into it that I did not say. All I'm saying is, people are different, and something working for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone. You don't need to let your enthusiasm for something lead you into making categorical statements which gaslight those for whom it doesn't work. I guess there is something badly worded about my comment which appears to insult you, which was not my intention, so I apologise for that.
- ZeroSolstice 4y ago
  As a bit of insight, the first response you had referred to using the word 'everybody' as toxic. Further, it appears you have doubled down and condemned what has worked for Sakos and their shared enthusiasm for a topic, as psychological manipulation[1] to undermine random people that 'might' read their posting. I think that if you are getting the feeling that responders are coming across as adversarial or misinterpreting what you are presenting, which happens with text, its a good time to reflect on things. Hopefully this helps. [1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gaslighting https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gaslighting

by Sakos 4y ago

ajb 4y ago

I'm happy that it works for you. This has been a very controversial comment, but a lot of people who disagree are reading things into it that I did not say. All I'm saying is, people are different, and something working for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone. You don't need to let your enthusiasm for something lead you into making categorical statements which gaslight those for whom it doesn't work. I guess there is something badly worded about my comment which appears to insult you, which was not my intention, so I apologise for that.

ZeroSolstice 4y ago
As a bit of insight, the first response you had referred to using the word 'everybody' as toxic. Further, it appears you have doubled down and condemned what has worked for Sakos and their shared enthusiasm for a topic, as psychological manipulation[1] to undermine random people that 'might' read their posting. I think that if you are getting the feeling that responders are coming across as adversarial or misinterpreting what you are presenting, which happens with text, its a good time to reflect on things. Hopefully this helps. [1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gaslighting https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gaslighting