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> This reminds me of the "guns don't kill people" argument. So you're telling me if we banned cameras in Iran, women would no longer be oppressed?
by 1101010010 4y ago
> This reminds me of the "guns don't kill people" argument.
So you're telling me if we banned cameras in Iran, women would no longer be oppressed?
- potsandpans 4y agocheck this out, I'm gonna get on the internet and argue in bad faith
- 1101010010 4y agoBlaming asymmetrically powerful technology before man's own perverted ego is simply misguided.
- kelipso 4y ago"Man's own perverted ego" is a constant across all off human history. Asymmetrically powerful technology is not. What are you even doing if you are only going to look at just the former thing?
- paulryanrogers 4y agoNo, that's reductive, though women would be less frequently oppressed. I'm saying without cameras people will have more freedom to resist, in big and small ways. And with enough resistance they may enact meaningful change. Cameras are tightening the noose on the opposition to those in power.
- FormerBandmate 4y agoAmerica should not sell surveillance cameras to Iran. We are not, and literally no one is advocating for this. This is entirely on Iran, and maybe the Chinese company selling them cameras if it exists
- 1101010010 4y ago> women would be less frequently oppressed. That does not logically follow; another technology would just as soon take the place of surveillance cameras (phone tracking, social stigma, stricter laws and punishment). It is the intent of the oppressor and the courage of a culture to resist it that matters most.
- paulryanrogers 4y agoNot necessarily. And other methods may be less effective or less ubiquitous.
- DesiLurker 4y agoBut Isn't that true for most technology? it tends to amplify power & if there is already concentration of power than tech will make it worse. I mean even in US tech has created a lot more inequality (though growing the pie but still). sad thing is this is only the start, wait till you see what pervalant surveillance powered with AI/GPT-X brings.
- GinsengJar 4y agoThat's not what they said. Oppression would still be present. The issue is the impact and influence protestors could have had simply wouldn't be possible as any dissent will be met with a knock at the door the moment it is uttered.
- ta1243 4y agoFace recognition allow the east german neighbour reporting on neighbour, but automated and scalable.