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> It's perfectly plausible to me that Ramadan-observing judges would better at judging while hungry while non-fasters would get worse. I don't know for judges,

by zvmaz 4y ago

> It's perfectly plausible to me that Ramadan-observing judges would better at judging while hungry while non-fasters would get worse. I don't know for judges, but I live in a dominantly religious society and I haven't noticed the virtues promised by observing strict religious fasting. In fact, people have been jailed by (probably fasting) judges for eating out of sight [1]. [1] https://www-lepoint-fr.translate.goog/monde/algerie-2-ans-de-prison-ferme-pour-un-non-jeuneur-lors-du-ramadan-21-10-2010-1252584_24.php?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-lepoint-fr.translate.goog/monde/algerie-2-ans-de...

reitanqild 4y ago
If the laws says you should fast, it wouldn't be a virtue (edit, to be more precise: it would even be wrong) for a judge to not punish someone for breaking the law, unless the law gives the judges this liberty. Now I am not saying I agree with this law, I am Christian and according to how I and those I live with practice it, fasting is strictly individual, something I personally would even try to hide according to Jesus words in Matthew 6. 16, 17 and particularly 18: > «that thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.» ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.6.18.KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.6.18.KJV
- LoveMortuus 4y ago
  That quote is quite interesting. I went to see if it's any different in other versions is bible, but it's always pretty much the same. Maybe expressing that you're fasting could be seen as bad. As if you're trying to boast about it, how you're better then others. Which made me that, if people that eat a vegan diet (or similar) kept it to themselves and not force it onto others, then perhaps there wouldn't exist the culture of "I ate a steak in front of vegans" or "I don't mind if you're vegan, but please let me eat in peace".
  - reitanqild 4y ago
    The first part Matthew 6, 1 - 21 has a lot more about doing what we do only with the expectation that God will see it, either it is alms, prayers or fast. Each of these might have value on their own, but God will only reward us if we do it for him instead of doing it to seek the glory of men.

by zvmaz 4y ago

reitanqild 4y ago

If the laws says you should fast, it wouldn't be a virtue (edit, to be more precise: it would even be wrong) for a judge to not punish someone for breaking the law, unless the law gives the judges this liberty. Now I am not saying I agree with this law, I am Christian and according to how I and those I live with practice it, fasting is strictly individual, something I personally would even try to hide according to Jesus words in Matthew 6. 16, 17 and particularly 18: > «that thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.» ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.6.18.KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.6.18.KJV

LoveMortuus 4y ago
That quote is quite interesting. I went to see if it's any different in other versions is bible, but it's always pretty much the same. Maybe expressing that you're fasting could be seen as bad. As if you're trying to boast about it, how you're better then others. Which made me that, if people that eat a vegan diet (or similar) kept it to themselves and not force it onto others, then perhaps there wouldn't exist the culture of "I ate a steak in front of vegans" or "I don't mind if you're vegan, but please let me eat in peace".
- reitanqild 4y ago
  The first part Matthew 6, 1 - 21 has a lot more about doing what we do only with the expectation that God will see it, either it is alms, prayers or fast. Each of these might have value on their own, but God will only reward us if we do it for him instead of doing it to seek the glory of men.