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That’s brilliant! Very cool way to inspire. Next they can move on to TERPS procedure design! haha

leetrout 3y ago
Just 500 pages of light reading material https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/Order_8260.3D_vs3.pdf https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/Order_8260.3...
- GalenErso 3y ago
  Which jobs require one to read and understand this material?
  - fallingmeat 3y ago
    procedure design. if you want to design your own approach procedure, for example. or if you are designing a takeoff/landing facility.
    - GalenErso 3y ago
      "Procedure design" isn't a job title. Do you mean procedure designer? And how many people in the U.S. work in designing landing and takeoff facilities?
      - fallingmeat 3y ago
        yep. good question! no idea
        nickmc 3y ago
        In the UK, the CAA approves procedure design organisations - listed here [0]. There are 8 and several are only a couple of people. Even the large ones probably only have 4 people max actual IFP designers. The total involved in the UK probably does not exceed 25. You could scale US according to the number of IFP airports. [0] https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/approved-persons-and-organisations/approved-organisations/approved-instrument-flight-procedures-design-organisations/ https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/approved-persons-and...
  - Twirrim 3y ago
    a relative of mine was involved in developing the eSIM standards, working with a consortium of telcos and phone manufacturers. For whatever reason, docs like that one are something he just loves to both read and produce. Diving in deep to a topic, finding every rough edge, corner case, undefined bit of behaviour and getting consensus from involved parties. I think I'd rather bash my head repeatedly against a brick wall, but somehow he finds it a lot of fun.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      didn't you just describe developing a large scale software package that is user facing?
  - ajcp 3y ago
    I'm a Solutions Architect -albeit in software- and I LOVE documentation like that. I will spend days and weeks consuming esoterica on even the most "simple" of specifications (looking at you JSON). I'll spend hours just ruminating after reading a single concept for a protocol. Partly because I enjoy it and partly because it's my job. I need to understand not just how the code works, but the implications and implementations of it. I also need to be able to explain all of it at varying levels of detail in both technical and non-technical terms.

Just 500 pages of light reading material https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/Order_8260.3D_vs3.pdf https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/Order_8260.3...

GalenErso 3y ago
Which jobs require one to read and understand this material?
- fallingmeat 3y ago
  procedure design. if you want to design your own approach procedure, for example. or if you are designing a takeoff/landing facility.
  - GalenErso 3y ago
    "Procedure design" isn't a job title. Do you mean procedure designer? And how many people in the U.S. work in designing landing and takeoff facilities?
    - fallingmeat 3y ago
      yep. good question! no idea
      - nickmc 3y ago
        In the UK, the CAA approves procedure design organisations - listed here [0]. There are 8 and several are only a couple of people. Even the large ones probably only have 4 people max actual IFP designers. The total involved in the UK probably does not exceed 25. You could scale US according to the number of IFP airports. [0] https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/approved-persons-and-organisations/approved-organisations/approved-instrument-flight-procedures-design-organisations/ https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/approved-persons-and...
- Twirrim 3y ago
  a relative of mine was involved in developing the eSIM standards, working with a consortium of telcos and phone manufacturers. For whatever reason, docs like that one are something he just loves to both read and produce. Diving in deep to a topic, finding every rough edge, corner case, undefined bit of behaviour and getting consensus from involved parties. I think I'd rather bash my head repeatedly against a brick wall, but somehow he finds it a lot of fun.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    didn't you just describe developing a large scale software package that is user facing?
- ajcp 3y ago
  I'm a Solutions Architect -albeit in software- and I LOVE documentation like that. I will spend days and weeks consuming esoterica on even the most "simple" of specifications (looking at you JSON). I'll spend hours just ruminating after reading a single concept for a protocol. Partly because I enjoy it and partly because it's my job. I need to understand not just how the code works, but the implications and implementations of it. I also need to be able to explain all of it at varying levels of detail in both technical and non-technical terms.