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Eggs are still eggs no?

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
No. I remember eggs 50 years ago, they tasted better, as did many other foods. Extrapolating, centuries ago, eggs were like divine ambrosia.
- causality0 4y ago
  Human taste degrades as we age. Everybody will remember food being better when they were younger.
  - sterlind 4y ago
    but produce really has gotten blander. I've never been a fan of regular Roma tomatoes, and even grocery store heirloom tomatoes mostly just taste sour. but I recently had the opportunity to eat a pizza with heirloom tomatoes from a friend's garden, and it tasted like the second coming of Jesus Christ in my mouth. like, not exaggerating, I was briefly moved to tears by how flavorful it was.
    - selimthegrim 4y ago
      You might want to reword that sentence unless you’re like that nun in Sweden who had some very detailed visions of feast of the circumcision, let’s leave it at that.
  - throw__away7391 4y ago
    Anecdotally I think food tastes way better in general today than it did in the 80s or 90s. Avocados used to be hard and almost flavorless, strawberries were watery and less sweet, restaurants are making much more interesting and complex dishes than I remember ever seeing as a kid, and food in general even just looks better. Go back and watch some old movies with some "fancy" dinners, everything just looks disgusting, like it was all cooked in a microwave or something. The situation looks like it was even worse in the 60s and 70s.
    - pfannkuchen 4y ago
      I think the mass shipping of produce has actually gotten better, probably in no small part from logistics software. Is there a chance though that you buy groceries somewhere relatively more expensive than where you (or your parents) bought groceries in the 80s/90s? It’s still very possible to find bland strawberries, it just depends on how much you are (or aren’t) willing to pay.
      - satvikpendem 4y ago
        Genetic engineering has actually changed the taste of produce, so it's not just seasonality: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg
    - satvikpendem 4y ago
      Not even anecdotal, this is legitimately what occurred. Genetic engineering created better food today than even 30 years ago: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg
  - pfannkuchen 4y ago
    Presumably they are referring to the reduction in average quality that came with scale and cost related changes in food production. If you buy (expensive) eggs from a small farm, they objectively taste better than eggs from a cheap or even average grocery store. My impression is that whatever “innovations” produce this difference had not yet been put in place 50 years ago.
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  HN user discovers aging. I'm sure there wasn't any backpain 50 years ago either.
  - t-3 4y ago
    Eggs from healthy chickens with good diets have more nutritional value and taste better than inbred, locked-in-a-tiny-cage, fed-only-corn, factory-farmed eggs. Visit a rural area and try some eggs from a chicken that's allowed to run around and scratch and eat bugs and seeds, it's not even comparable to thin-shelled pale-yellow-yolked garbage in the grocery store.
linsomniac 4y ago
I'm not sure... I get the sense that eggs of the 1800s were likely a byproduct of having chickens, or barter with someone who had chickens. Yes, some effort went into them, where now it's more likely that the effort goes into work which turns into money which turns into eggs. But, I've made a choice: I'll pay for eggs at the market rather than have chickens, because I don't want to have to deal with chickensitters when we got on a trip. This is the sort of choice that the person you're replying to is talking about.
- tough 4y ago
  A chicken Bot AI that keeps your chickens and house safe is the solution you need you didn't knew
  - n0tahacker 4y ago
    If you have enough land, by all means..
hansvm 4y ago
You could replace 100% of your diet with eggs by programming half an hour each week. Most other foods are cheaper per calorie.
sigstoat 4y ago
now they come in nice little disposable cardboard boxes, and they're available within a mile or two of your home, 365 days a year, probably about 24/7, regardless of season, or any diseases sweeping through the chicken population. it's possible you've never had to smell chicken shit in your entire life. they're sorted by size, graded by the USDA, run through certified facilities with quality control experts doing I don't even know what, but i'd wager a cookie you vote for people who pass food safety laws, so i'm assuming you approve of those QC folks. if we round up and say a dozen eggs costs $5 right now, and then use CPI to go backwards to 1913, what we're getting would've cost $0.16 then. the first website i found says that a dozen eggs cost $0.37 in 1913. i realize there's some circularity in there with eggs being part of the CPI calculation, sorry.

No. I remember eggs 50 years ago, they tasted better, as did many other foods. Extrapolating, centuries ago, eggs were like divine ambrosia.

causality0 4y ago
Human taste degrades as we age. Everybody will remember food being better when they were younger.
- sterlind 4y ago
  but produce really has gotten blander. I've never been a fan of regular Roma tomatoes, and even grocery store heirloom tomatoes mostly just taste sour. but I recently had the opportunity to eat a pizza with heirloom tomatoes from a friend's garden, and it tasted like the second coming of Jesus Christ in my mouth. like, not exaggerating, I was briefly moved to tears by how flavorful it was.
  - selimthegrim 4y ago
    You might want to reword that sentence unless you’re like that nun in Sweden who had some very detailed visions of feast of the circumcision, let’s leave it at that.
- throw__away7391 4y ago
  Anecdotally I think food tastes way better in general today than it did in the 80s or 90s. Avocados used to be hard and almost flavorless, strawberries were watery and less sweet, restaurants are making much more interesting and complex dishes than I remember ever seeing as a kid, and food in general even just looks better. Go back and watch some old movies with some "fancy" dinners, everything just looks disgusting, like it was all cooked in a microwave or something. The situation looks like it was even worse in the 60s and 70s.
  - pfannkuchen 4y ago
    I think the mass shipping of produce has actually gotten better, probably in no small part from logistics software. Is there a chance though that you buy groceries somewhere relatively more expensive than where you (or your parents) bought groceries in the 80s/90s? It’s still very possible to find bland strawberries, it just depends on how much you are (or aren’t) willing to pay.
    - satvikpendem 4y ago
      Genetic engineering has actually changed the taste of produce, so it's not just seasonality: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg
  - satvikpendem 4y ago
    Not even anecdotal, this is legitimately what occurred. Genetic engineering created better food today than even 30 years ago: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg https://youtube.com/watch?v=UaxzEztQcyg
- pfannkuchen 4y ago
  Presumably they are referring to the reduction in average quality that came with scale and cost related changes in food production. If you buy (expensive) eggs from a small farm, they objectively taste better than eggs from a cheap or even average grocery store. My impression is that whatever “innovations” produce this difference had not yet been put in place 50 years ago.
sebzim4500 4y ago
HN user discovers aging. I'm sure there wasn't any backpain 50 years ago either.
- t-3 4y ago
  Eggs from healthy chickens with good diets have more nutritional value and taste better than inbred, locked-in-a-tiny-cage, fed-only-corn, factory-farmed eggs. Visit a rural area and try some eggs from a chicken that's allowed to run around and scratch and eat bugs and seeds, it's not even comparable to thin-shelled pale-yellow-yolked garbage in the grocery store.

linsomniac 4y ago

I'm not sure... I get the sense that eggs of the 1800s were likely a byproduct of having chickens, or barter with someone who had chickens. Yes, some effort went into them, where now it's more likely that the effort goes into work which turns into money which turns into eggs. But, I've made a choice: I'll pay for eggs at the market rather than have chickens, because I don't want to have to deal with chickensitters when we got on a trip. This is the sort of choice that the person you're replying to is talking about.

tough 4y ago
A chicken Bot AI that keeps your chickens and house safe is the solution you need you didn't knew
- n0tahacker 4y ago
  If you have enough land, by all means..

hansvm 4y ago

You could replace 100% of your diet with eggs by programming half an hour each week. Most other foods are cheaper per calorie.

sigstoat 4y ago

now they come in nice little disposable cardboard boxes, and they're available within a mile or two of your home, 365 days a year, probably about 24/7, regardless of season, or any diseases sweeping through the chicken population. it's possible you've never had to smell chicken shit in your entire life. they're sorted by size, graded by the USDA, run through certified facilities with quality control experts doing I don't even know what, but i'd wager a cookie you vote for people who pass food safety laws, so i'm assuming you approve of those QC folks. if we round up and say a dozen eggs costs $5 right now, and then use CPI to go backwards to 1913, what we're getting would've cost $0.16 then. the first website i found says that a dozen eggs cost $0.37 in 1913. i realize there's some circularity in there with eggs being part of the CPI calculation, sorry.