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As a Muslim, I can say there is something definitely different about Ramadan. It’s supposed to help your spiritual development, so it’s not surprising at all t

by oa335 4y ago

As a Muslim, I can say there is something definitely different about Ramadan. It’s supposed to help your spiritual development, so it’s not surprising at all that judges would display more mercy at that time. If anything these two conflicting studies could point to the effect of an intentional spiritual focus, rather than hunger itself.

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throwaway4aday 4y ago
Big agree on this, they just swapped a handful of confounding variables for another one. The finding that the judges became more merciful with every hour of fasting could be made sense of in that they became more aware of their hunger and so were more aware of the reason they were fasting, their religious beliefs and commitment.
hgsgm 4y ago
Or Ramadan could cause judges to hold people to a higher standard of behavior.
- pygy_ 4y ago
  That’s not the spirit of Ramadan.
  - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
    Really? https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/ramadan-fines-you-pay-you-26541563 https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/rama... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2017/06/tunisia-fifth-man-facing-jail-term-for-breaking-fast-during-ramadan/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2017/06/tuni... https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0de064b1-c214-44eb-a1a0-1ed33608f2a6 https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0de064b1-c214... It seems in a lot of Muslim countries you can go to jail for just eating normally during Ramadan.
    - pygy_ 4y ago
      That seems irrelevant given that these offenses are but a minute share of the total judicial cases.
    - erenyeager 4y ago
      Judicial process is different than the process of arresting. Following the culture and norms of the place you’re in is often inscribed in law. The judges have to do with the actual judgement process of crime. Completely orthogonal.

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throwaway4aday 4y ago

Big agree on this, they just swapped a handful of confounding variables for another one. The finding that the judges became more merciful with every hour of fasting could be made sense of in that they became more aware of their hunger and so were more aware of the reason they were fasting, their religious beliefs and commitment.

hgsgm 4y ago

Or Ramadan could cause judges to hold people to a higher standard of behavior.

pygy_ 4y ago
That’s not the spirit of Ramadan.
- cscurmudgeon 4y ago
  Really? https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/ramadan-fines-you-pay-you-26541563 https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/rama... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2017/06/tunisia-fifth-man-facing-jail-term-for-breaking-fast-during-ramadan/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2017/06/tuni... https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0de064b1-c214-44eb-a1a0-1ed33608f2a6 https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0de064b1-c214... It seems in a lot of Muslim countries you can go to jail for just eating normally during Ramadan.
  - pygy_ 4y ago
    That seems irrelevant given that these offenses are but a minute share of the total judicial cases.
  - erenyeager 4y ago
    Judicial process is different than the process of arresting. Following the culture and norms of the place you’re in is often inscribed in law. The judges have to do with the actual judgement process of crime. Completely orthogonal.