Even "nothing to glorify" leaves room to interpret poorly. I would say it is fine to revel in, but no special virtue. If it really is beyond choice, then it's

Even "nothing to glorify" leaves room to interpret poorly. I would say it is fine to revel in, but no special virtue. If it really is beyond choice, then it's no better than a form of lust. It can still be fine to experience and engage in, but it doesn't make the participants heros or good people, or bad.