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This is kind of my point - there isn't any slowing or stopping progress on this. We have effectively two paths - development behind walled gardens and closed

This is kind of my point - there isn't any slowing or stopping progress on this. We have effectively two paths - development behind walled gardens and closed doors, which will accelerate the wealth gap to war- and poverty- inducing levels - access to this powerful game changer for the people who would otherwise be losing their purpose in the social structure. There's no reason your job has to evaporate as an artist, or programmer, or anything else if you can just keep doing the same thing empowered by a cheap, accessible force multiplier like AI. It really comes down to whether or not the closed models are _enough better_ that they can start charging exuberant rents to people so they can effectively continue contributing to society.

nerpderp82 4y ago
I am talking about growth, not who controls it. Yours is an extremely important distinction, but not entirely related my point of too much change to quickly. Even with "just" ChatGPT 3.5 performance, we are upending everything in months.
- pksebben 4y ago
  The growth is here. Whether the models become openly accessible is immaterial to that fact - closing them up and burying them in regulation won't do anything to slow the progress down; it will just slow progress down for the likes of you and I. The paths I see, in broad strokes: - models become open and easy to hack on. We all lose our jobs. But we can now find new jobs using these models to do similar work. - models stay closed and only get developed by BigCo. We all lose our jobs. Remediation for this development may or may not happen and who knows what it will look like. The core difference I think you and I are dancing around here is a belief in our collective ability to hit the brakes on progress. I understand the desire to do so, but you won't stop a river by putting a rock in the middle and I think this is a situation with that level of momentum.

nerpderp82 4y ago

I am talking about growth, not who controls it. Yours is an extremely important distinction, but not entirely related my point of too much change to quickly. Even with "just" ChatGPT 3.5 performance, we are upending everything in months.

pksebben 4y ago
The growth is here. Whether the models become openly accessible is immaterial to that fact - closing them up and burying them in regulation won't do anything to slow the progress down; it will just slow progress down for the likes of you and I. The paths I see, in broad strokes: - models become open and easy to hack on. We all lose our jobs. But we can now find new jobs using these models to do similar work. - models stay closed and only get developed by BigCo. We all lose our jobs. Remediation for this development may or may not happen and who knows what it will look like. The core difference I think you and I are dancing around here is a belief in our collective ability to hit the brakes on progress. I understand the desire to do so, but you won't stop a river by putting a rock in the middle and I think this is a situation with that level of momentum.