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Journalists have been milking this story for weeks now. All stories are about the same two junior recruiters who were hired just before hiring slowdown/pause.
by protastus 4y ago
Journalists have been milking this story for weeks now. All stories are about the same two junior recruiters who were hired just before hiring slowdown/pause. Meta was graceful enough to leave them in the payroll, and the new hires decided to shitpost on TikTok instead.
Recruiters in big tech have basically zero visibility about work happening in engineering orgs. Which in my experience is generally intense, even when the ideas are too bad to ship. I'm waiting for journalists to report on actual engineers who were paid to sit on their ass. But I am skeptical these people (if they exist) will be dumb enough to post videos on TikTok about it.
- rco8786 4y agoThey don’t exist. At least not outside of some extreme anecdotes.
- paulgb 4y ago> All stories are about the same two junior recruiters who were hired just before hiring slowdown/pause. And also, based on posts on tik tok where people regularly make up or exaggerate stories for social clout.
- juunpp 4y ago"Journalists"
- frozenport 4y ago>> I'm waiting for journalists to report on actual engineers who were paid to sit on their ass. Vest and rest is a real example and I've know a few people who fit that category. https://www.insider.com/rest-and-vest-millionaire-engineers-who-barely-work-silicon-valley-2017-7 https://www.insider.com/rest-and-vest-millionaire-engineers-...
- protastus 4y agoRest-and-vest is different from "hired to do nothing". Rest-and-vest people have accrued enough seniority and tenure that the business either believes they're worth retaining or is too inefficient to detect the change in behavior and quickly manage them out.
- icedchai 4y agoI know a couple of engineers who've done nothing for 3 to 6 months on end. Then they get transferred to another team, rinse-and-repeat. One person I know did this for a little over a year before getting laid off. He literally did about 1 day of work a week!
- peteradio 4y ago> 1 day of work a week amateur
- rufus_foreman 4y agoRookie numbers.
- kodah 4y agoIn organizations I've been in it takes a while to file or lay someone off. It's generally easier to get them transferred out somewhere where they're miserable instead. Some people don't find those jobs terribly miserable though and are finally laid off when "value" and "impact" decisions are made. This is why I chuckled so much when Big Head got sent to the roof.
- icedchai 4y agoYeah, I laughed at that part of Silicon Valley, too. The "miserable job" only works if the person plans on working. For many, you can just continue slacking off, coming up with delays/blockers, and dragging things out indefinitely.
- ericmcer 4y agoA junior recruiter makes 190k? That’s in the middle of the senior engineer band.
- kodah 4y agoI think most of them also get commission. Depending on how many people they recruit that could be a sizeable amount per year. Recruiters do work really hard, I've personally known a few, so I don't think that's an indictment on recruiters as much as it's an indictment on how much you take home vs how much you earn the company.
- DoreenMichele 4y agoYeah, she could have been unemployed during the pandemic instead of making a pretty penny for working half or three quarters of the day. And this is how she repays them.
- _cenw 4y agoThis is a terrible point. Hiring someone to do nothing is not a fulfilling job. People, for the most part, care about what they do and want it to be important. The only thing that likely kept her there was the prestige of working for Meta and the economic stability. That doesn't mean having a job where you're expected to look busy but do nothing isn't stressful.
- DoreenMichele 4y agoIt's a lot less stressful than having no income during a pandemic while a lot of companies have hiring freezes on and you are either living on savings or not paying rent while you watch the bills pile up and have no idea how you will pay it when the eviction moratorium ends or ending up homeless during a pandemic.
- coding123 4y agoThere are a LOT of people living in a bubble right now.