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TCP/IP over HDMI exists and is in use. You cannot just "not connect your TV" because if you connect to ROKU which is connected to the Internet, your TV can acc

TCP/IP over HDMI exists and is in use. You cannot just "not connect your TV" because if you connect to ROKU which is connected to the Internet, your TV can access the internet. Source: I bought a TV a few years ago, and it somehow popped up an ad even though I didn't connect it to my WiFi. Did some research, and that's how I found out.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago
Why would Roku allow the TV to tunnel through it though? AFAIK they see smart TVs as their direct competition.
- ChancyChance 4y ago
  Beats me. But that is a great question.
varenc 4y ago
Isn't Roku itself full of telemetry, content tracking, and ads? Used to have some housemates with a Roku and it was painful. As far as HDMI over TCP/IP, I actually tried to get a TV online once via a Roku and Ethernet over HDMI but it didn't work. Where you able to confirm this? My issue might been my TV's fault though. Seems like something Roku would want to disable anyway since they have no incentive to get your Smart TV online and would probably prefer if it wasn't.
- ChancyChance 3y ago
  Yes, Roku is full of all that. The ads are minimal so far: they don't pop up while I'm watching things. I am adverse to a smart TV because it just adds unnecessary setup, GUIs, remotes, and cognitive load. A TV should be a monitor, not a fancy hub with in your face content. I deduced the path because an ad showed up that was for a recent film on the setup page. I don't have cable. It could not have been planted in the TV's storage, unless the TV was very new. The only way it could have shown an ad for a film is if it had access to the internet, which I had not set up. I didn't bother checking traffic with WireShark. I asked HN and that's how I found out (old alt account from years ago, don't remember and my stylometric match isn't high enough to find it). I returned the TV the next day because it was too small: I had tried to downsize from a 58" to a 30-something-inch but it was too hard to watch. I could be wrong, but that was my report. Encyclopedia Brown and The Case of the Mysterious Movie Ad.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago

Why would Roku allow the TV to tunnel through it though? AFAIK they see smart TVs as their direct competition.

ChancyChance 4y ago
Beats me. But that is a great question.

varenc 4y ago

Isn't Roku itself full of telemetry, content tracking, and ads? Used to have some housemates with a Roku and it was painful. As far as HDMI over TCP/IP, I actually tried to get a TV online once via a Roku and Ethernet over HDMI but it didn't work. Where you able to confirm this? My issue might been my TV's fault though. Seems like something Roku would want to disable anyway since they have no incentive to get your Smart TV online and would probably prefer if it wasn't.

ChancyChance 3y ago
Yes, Roku is full of all that. The ads are minimal so far: they don't pop up while I'm watching things. I am adverse to a smart TV because it just adds unnecessary setup, GUIs, remotes, and cognitive load. A TV should be a monitor, not a fancy hub with in your face content. I deduced the path because an ad showed up that was for a recent film on the setup page. I don't have cable. It could not have been planted in the TV's storage, unless the TV was very new. The only way it could have shown an ad for a film is if it had access to the internet, which I had not set up. I didn't bother checking traffic with WireShark. I asked HN and that's how I found out (old alt account from years ago, don't remember and my stylometric match isn't high enough to find it). I returned the TV the next day because it was too small: I had tried to downsize from a 58" to a 30-something-inch but it was too hard to watch. I could be wrong, but that was my report. Encyclopedia Brown and The Case of the Mysterious Movie Ad.