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That non management wishes to be paid overtime rates is not unique to police. This happens across all industries. You could argue that it happens more in govt

That non management wishes to be paid overtime rates is not unique to police. This happens across all industries. You could argue that it happens more in govt than outside of it. Ive never understood Why we trust politicians as the middleman between our taxpayer credit card and unions or service providers, like cops. There is complete misalignment in incentives. Why do we pretend that overtime is going to be any different?

syzarian 4y ago
Did you read the article? I doubt it since the title is misses the egregious part of the corruption described. It is terrible to be policed by the dolts that were recorded.
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
  i did it could be police. it could be firefighters. it could be municipal garbage truckers. i dont see "corruption" . i see plain old overtime milking & malfeasance as in any other industry with extremely poor oversight and controls. It should be a fireable offense. But unions make it hard. That is by design. Do you think this does not happen in other nyc agencies doing services for taxpayers?
  - syzarian 4y ago
    If you think overtime is the corruption one should be worrying about from what is described in the article then you either didn’t read it or you have seriously misguided priorities. Overtime is a red herring.
    - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
      I am not following. I read a bunch of OT milking + a bunch of @-hole behavior. Being a knucklehead doesn't make you corrupt. Then some run-of-the-mill lobbying of unions, as you would find in any large metro with a large govt payroll. Is there anything else I may have missed ?
  - Cas6767 4y ago
    They're delaying due process for their own benefit, this is the definition of corruption. Like the judges selling kids into private prisons, albeit on a smaller scale, no less a violation.
    - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
      That doesn't seem honest. If they are delaying due process by simply squeezing overtime (due to reforms the benefiaries didn't enact themselves, btw), ... do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ? Since when is optimal performance a right? Instead, we have curative actions. That is called firing. The fact that the management structure is failing to do that does not mean anyone is stripped of any rights, except that taxpayers are not getting their money's worth for the services they delegated to bureaucracies.
      - syzarian 4y ago
        do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ? You are being deliberately daft. Obviously not. The situations aren’t comparable.
        IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
        I was not the one in this thread, that compared OT milking to a judge getting bribes, to send more kids to jail. Those situations are not comparable.
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syzarian 4y ago

Did you read the article? I doubt it since the title is misses the egregious part of the corruption described. It is terrible to be policed by the dolts that were recorded.

IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
i did it could be police. it could be firefighters. it could be municipal garbage truckers. i dont see "corruption" . i see plain old overtime milking & malfeasance as in any other industry with extremely poor oversight and controls. It should be a fireable offense. But unions make it hard. That is by design. Do you think this does not happen in other nyc agencies doing services for taxpayers?
- syzarian 4y ago
  If you think overtime is the corruption one should be worrying about from what is described in the article then you either didn’t read it or you have seriously misguided priorities. Overtime is a red herring.
  - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
    I am not following. I read a bunch of OT milking + a bunch of @-hole behavior. Being a knucklehead doesn't make you corrupt. Then some run-of-the-mill lobbying of unions, as you would find in any large metro with a large govt payroll. Is there anything else I may have missed ?
- Cas6767 4y ago
  They're delaying due process for their own benefit, this is the definition of corruption. Like the judges selling kids into private prisons, albeit on a smaller scale, no less a violation.
  - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
    That doesn't seem honest. If they are delaying due process by simply squeezing overtime (due to reforms the benefiaries didn't enact themselves, btw), ... do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ? Since when is optimal performance a right? Instead, we have curative actions. That is called firing. The fact that the management structure is failing to do that does not mean anyone is stripped of any rights, except that taxpayers are not getting their money's worth for the services they delegated to bureaucracies.
    - syzarian 4y ago
      do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ? You are being deliberately daft. Obviously not. The situations aren’t comparable.
      - IG_Semmelweiss 4y ago
        I was not the one in this thread, that compared OT milking to a judge getting bribes, to send more kids to jail. Those situations are not comparable.

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