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And people wonder why some of us say the police need to be abolished and replaced with something less obviously corrupt.
by QuercusMax 4y ago
And people wonder why some of us say the police need to be abolished and replaced with something less obviously corrupt.
- arcanemachiner 4y agoSpoken like someone who's never milked overtime.
- kevingadd 4y agoNot sure why you expect that behavior to be a constant here on Hacker News. Lots of people on this site spend most of their lives working overtime-exempt salaried positions. Personally, I started working when I was 14, and I've never been paid an hour of overtime at any of my service or technology jobs over the course of decades.
- vkou 4y agoMilking overtime is the least concerning thing here, given that these guys are part of a group that is given guns, a license to use whatever violence they deem necessary against us, and preferential treatment under the law. You're addressing the least serious criticism.
- stefan_ 4y agoIf you milking overtime is delaying the release of a person from jail, on garbage charges no less, I think it's time for a felony on the record and some custodial time.
- Cas6767 4y agoMilking overtime specifically by prolonging someone's detention is a bit different ...
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y agoThat non management wishes to be paid overtime rates is not unique to police. This happens across all industries. You could argue that it happens more in govt than outside of it. Ive never understood Why we trust politicians as the middleman between our taxpayer credit card and unions or service providers, like cops. There is complete misalignment in incentives. Why do we pretend that overtime is going to be any different?
- syzarian 4y agoDid you read the article? I doubt it since the title is misses the egregious part of the corruption described. It is terrible to be policed by the dolts that were recorded.
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y agoi did it could be police. it could be firefighters. it could be municipal garbage truckers. i dont see "corruption" . i see plain old overtime milking & malfeasance as in any other industry with extremely poor oversight and controls. It should be a fireable offense. But unions make it hard. That is by design. Do you think this does not happen in other nyc agencies doing services for taxpayers?
- syzarian 4y agoIf you think overtime is the corruption one should be worrying about from what is described in the article then you either didn’t read it or you have seriously misguided priorities. Overtime is a red herring.
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y agoI am not following. I read a bunch of OT milking + a bunch of @-hole behavior. Being a knucklehead doesn't make you corrupt. Then some run-of-the-mill lobbying of unions, as you would find in any large metro with a large govt payroll. Is there anything else I may have missed ?
- Cas6767 4y agoThey're delaying due process for their own benefit, this is the definition of corruption. Like the judges selling kids into private prisons, albeit on a smaller scale, no less a violation.
- IG_Semmelweiss 4y agoThat doesn't seem honest. If they are delaying due process by simply squeezing overtime (due to reforms the benefiaries didn't enact themselves, btw), ... do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ? Since when is optimal performance a right? Instead, we have curative actions. That is called firing. The fact that the management structure is failing to do that does not mean anyone is stripped of any rights, except that taxpayers are not getting their money's worth for the services they delegated to bureaucracies.
- willcipriano 4y agoWhy not the entire government?