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I agree on a longer time scale, but my life and the lives of many I know is markedly worse than 5 years ago. Crime is up a LOT in NYC, and the subway for the fi
by throwayyy479087 3y ago
I agree on a longer time scale, but my life and the lives of many I know is markedly worse than 5 years ago. Crime is up a LOT in NYC, and the subway for the first time in my lifetime feels sketchy during the day. Inflation has really hurt a lot of my lower SES friends, and there's a general nihilism that's pretty unpleasant.
Also, the mass shooting thing has gotten much worse in the last 30 years.
- powerbroker 3y agoMass shooting deaths YTD at end of March 2023: ~200. Gun violence deaths YTD at end of March 2023: ~10,000. Question asked: "How many peole in the u.s. die in mass shootings compared to how many people die in gun violence?" Source: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=6a726999-4846-410b-aa52-57beb3bc54bd https://www.phind.com/search?cache=6a726999-4846-410b-aa52-5...
- __pache__ 3y ago[flagged]
- JoeyJoJoJr 3y agoI hope your comment is being sarcastic, because if not, it really highlights how completely and utterly bonkers the discourse on school shootings has become in the USA. Your numbers do not take into account the thousands of students at each school (and surrounding schools), and their parents, that experience horrific trauma from shootings, which is simply not comparable to an accidental pool or car death.
- __pache__ 3y agoNope being serious. I'm living with a disabled father from a car accident. Decades to go caring for a completely disabled person. Many thousands of people every year are in pain from car accidents. Or medical malpractice which takes like a quarter million lives yearly. No need to go on about extremely rare insane people that are almost all medicated. They would drive a truck through a crowd if not gun them down. The numbers don't make sense, 200 vs millions impacted by other real problems
- JoeyJoJoJr 3y agoWith the lack of unified empathy surrounding school shootings, it’s not surprising that millions of people are impacted by things like shitty healthcare, dangerous driving, relentless marketing for unhealthy lifestyles, etc. The shootings and its highly toxic discourse are symptoms of something very rotten. School shootings in the USA absolutely eclipse every other first world nation combined. Also, 200 deaths equates to potentially hundreds of thousands of traumatised kids. With such fear permeating it’s not surprising that the system produces mentally unstable people that can’t access treatment.
- __pache__ 3y ago[flagged]
- watwut 3y agoFYI, teachers are disarmed and that is a good thing. This argument just show how manipulative andnutterly lacking brain pro-mass shooting side of debate became.
- __pache__ 3y agoInsanity
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- JoeyJoJoJr 3y agoA society/group that entertains the idea that teachers should carry deadly weapons, to combat students carrying deadly weapons, is very warped, and an indication that something has gone very wrong for so many people to consider that as a viable solution. It is the “necessity” to carry weapons which is the problem in the first place. I am sorry that one of your loved ones was involved in an accident and I am sure that is extremely painful to experience.
- watwut 3y agoIt is perfectly valid for people to be angry about mass shootings, even if people die more from something else. It even actually rationally does not make sense to act like it is a gotcha. Moreover, actually in USA deaths on roads went up Moreover, there is large overlap between those who see mass shooting as issue and those who want walkable streets and the kind of zoning that promotes less driving.
- __pache__ 3y agoIt's also perfectly valid to be realistic: the reality is they are exceedingly rare. That's it. You don't need to check all the Halloween candy.