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Looks like SF averages about one person killed by a car every ten days or so, though bikers are a relatively rare proportion of them: https://sfgov.org/scoreca

by evmar 4y ago

Looks like SF averages about one person killed by a car every ten days or so, though bikers are a relatively rare proportion of them: https://sfgov.org/scorecards/transportation/traffic-fatalities https://sfgov.org/scorecards/transportation/traffic-fataliti... (Edit: this comment came out more heartless than I intended! I think this story is a real tragedy. I was just connecting it to the larger tragedy of car culture.)

y-curious 4y ago
Apparently SFPD issues traffic citations on average of 10 times per day. Gee, I wonder what happens on our streets when we stop enforcing the law? https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article/sfpd-traffic-tickets-17355651.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article... https://transpomaps.org/san-francisco/ca/sfpd-traffic-enforcement/analysis https://transpomaps.org/san-francisco/ca/sfpd-traffic-enforc...
- mike_d 4y ago
  SFPD needs a dedicated bike enforcement team. Ticket unsafe riding, helmets for minors, etc. We can then expand that to enforcement of things bike people complain about like cars parking in bike lanes.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Putting cops on bikes would be a great start.
    - d136o 4y ago
      Giving the cops great bike equipment seems like an amazingly creative way to fund the police. Get them the best e-bikes.
      - pg_1234 4y ago
        Putting cops on human powered bikes instead seems like a great way to keep them in the required physical condition to enact an arrest without shooting someone.
d136o 4y ago
I recently learned that cops can’t drive after fleeing vehicles in SF. I looked into this because I saw multiple instances of cars driving insanely fast near me, and soon after seeing cops with their lights on. These cars were doing 45+ in a residential area where max 30 or 25 would be appropriate.
- hackeraccount 4y ago
  That's the same as the city I live in - end result is kids on motorcycles flying around city streets as +30mph over the speed limit, blowing past red lights and going the wrong way down streets. I can't imagine some sort of high speed chase would be a better situation but I'm not certain that alternative is an order of magnitude worse; seems like it might be marginally worse.
- slaymaker1907 4y ago
  Is the law that they can't ever do it or that they can only do it if said person is a danger to others? The cops in WA bitch and moan about similar restrictions, but the law explicitly allows them to drive after fleeing suspects in those exact circumstances they are worried about.

by evmar 4y ago

y-curious 4y ago

Apparently SFPD issues traffic citations on average of 10 times per day. Gee, I wonder what happens on our streets when we stop enforcing the law? https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article/sfpd-traffic-tickets-17355651.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article... https://transpomaps.org/san-francisco/ca/sfpd-traffic-enforcement/analysis https://transpomaps.org/san-francisco/ca/sfpd-traffic-enforc...

mike_d 4y ago
SFPD needs a dedicated bike enforcement team. Ticket unsafe riding, helmets for minors, etc. We can then expand that to enforcement of things bike people complain about like cars parking in bike lanes.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Putting cops on bikes would be a great start.
  - d136o 4y ago
    Giving the cops great bike equipment seems like an amazingly creative way to fund the police. Get them the best e-bikes.
    - pg_1234 4y ago
      Putting cops on human powered bikes instead seems like a great way to keep them in the required physical condition to enact an arrest without shooting someone.

d136o 4y ago

I recently learned that cops can’t drive after fleeing vehicles in SF. I looked into this because I saw multiple instances of cars driving insanely fast near me, and soon after seeing cops with their lights on. These cars were doing 45+ in a residential area where max 30 or 25 would be appropriate.

hackeraccount 4y ago
That's the same as the city I live in - end result is kids on motorcycles flying around city streets as +30mph over the speed limit, blowing past red lights and going the wrong way down streets. I can't imagine some sort of high speed chase would be a better situation but I'm not certain that alternative is an order of magnitude worse; seems like it might be marginally worse.
slaymaker1907 4y ago
Is the law that they can't ever do it or that they can only do it if said person is a danger to others? The cops in WA bitch and moan about similar restrictions, but the law explicitly allows them to drive after fleeing suspects in those exact circumstances they are worried about.