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A couple of notes from my own experience in casino hacking fun: 1. if they spot you singularly winning way too hard, they will cut you off 2. if you can distri

A couple of notes from my own experience in casino hacking fun: 1. if they spot you singularly winning way too hard, they will cut you off 2. if you can distribute the wins wide enough between enough individuals you might get away with it There ARE exploits and you can get away with them. People find them pretty regularly and the ones who get away with it are really organized. My favorites over the past years: Weak PRNG in the Buffalo slot machines [1], and people cleaning that, and the guy who figured out an exploit in the game king brand video poker machines [2] - One got away with it and the other didn't, it's worth being aware of how. [1] https://www.wired.com/2017/02/russians-engineer-brilliant-slot-machine-cheat-casinos-no-fix/ https://www.wired.com/2017/02/russians-engineer-brilliant-sl... [2] https://www.wired.com/2013/05/game-king/ https://www.wired.com/2013/05/game-king/

0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago
“Got away with it” would imply they committed an elaborate scheme. It sounds like they played the game with a strategy and never broke any rules. Except the cardinal one that the House always wins.
- whichfawkes 4y ago
  Getting away with it in this case just means "not being cheated by the casino". They're big enough to cheat you using violence or even the judicial system, so if you do this you're strategizing against that as much as you are strategizing to win the actual game.
TheHappyOddish 4y ago
> Because Bliev and his cohorts had pulled their scam across state lines, federal authorities charged them with conspiracy to commit fraud. > Bliev, Gudalov, and Larenov, all of whom are Russian citizens, eventually accepted plea bargains and were each sentenced to two years in federal prison, to be followed by deportation. I don't quite follow here. What is fraudulent/illegal? Surely if you offer a pattern based game for money it should be legal to analyze and learn the pattern?

0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago

“Got away with it” would imply they committed an elaborate scheme. It sounds like they played the game with a strategy and never broke any rules. Except the cardinal one that the House always wins.

whichfawkes 4y ago
Getting away with it in this case just means "not being cheated by the casino". They're big enough to cheat you using violence or even the judicial system, so if you do this you're strategizing against that as much as you are strategizing to win the actual game.

TheHappyOddish 4y ago

> Because Bliev and his cohorts had pulled their scam across state lines, federal authorities charged them with conspiracy to commit fraud. > Bliev, Gudalov, and Larenov, all of whom are Russian citizens, eventually accepted plea bargains and were each sentenced to two years in federal prison, to be followed by deportation. I don't quite follow here. What is fraudulent/illegal? Surely if you offer a pattern based game for money it should be legal to analyze and learn the pattern?