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Support for Nest Secure Ending

26 points by judge2020 4y ago

mikece 4y ago
Google kills another product... I thought this was expected, not news.
- mathgeek 4y ago
  The news today is that the existing prouducts will no longer function. The actual product line was discontinued in 2021.
- waynesonfire 4y ago
  i think this comment is more annoying than google killing products.
metadat 4y ago
I'm thinking of holding off on purchasing any more Google hardware from now on. The volume of the ongoing stream of e-waste doesn't feel good. I just threw away 4 Chromecast Ultras a few weeks ago because they are slow as hell these days, totally useless to me.
- xamde 4y ago
  As a counterpoint, our even older Chromecast Audio devices keep on trucking just fine.
- cbeley 4y ago
  What is slow about them? I've never had issues with my ultra and frequently stream 4K HDR content. I have not found a good reason to upgrade to Google TV and prefer the cast-only behavior. I do have it connected to Ethernet though. Also, some services' casting implementations are less than ideal though.
nonfamous 4y ago
Also Dropcam and Works with Nest. This may be a better link to share: https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Blog/An-update-for-our-Nest-Secure-Dropcam-and-Works-with-Nest-Users-and/ba-p/391449 https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Blog/An-update-for-ou...
lloydatkinson 4y ago
It's just funny at this point
cwilkes 4y ago
General Motors’ teaming up with Google is going to backfire in a couple of years when Google gets bored of that market. You won’t be able to sell a used car that comes with a non-working entertainment system. Maybe there’s a play in there to make an aftermarket system that will still function. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/business/gm-apple-play-evs https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/business/gm-apple-play-evs
lapetitejort 4y ago
I am one of those crazies who's been using Nest Secure for perhaps five years now. After getting annoyed with having to arm and disarm it, it now just acts as a bridge for the door sensors and Yale locks. The door sensors I can live without, but I hope I don't have to buy the $70 Nest Connect in order to keep using the locks. I'm not going to get the ADT bundle, so I can use part of the $200 Google Store credit. But that could have gone towards a phone discount!
- judge2020 4y ago
  Were you able to get the discount yet? The code in my email doesn't work on the store, and when I asked support they opened an email ticket to keep me updated for when it's fixed.
  - lapetitejort 4y ago
    I haven't tried yet. The discount is good until May 2024. I'll probably use it when the new Pixels launch.
disillusioned 4y ago
This is deeply annoying, not least of all because the hardware is evergreen and still works. It also is being replaced by hardware that is objectively worse: bigger, uglier, and single purpose. (I really like the combo motion sensor and door sensor from Nest.) Why on earth Google can't rewrite the Nest Secure firmware to use ADT, I do not understand. Or why they can't persist support for it indefinitely. I understand they didn't want to migrate it's functionality into the Google Home app, which is the driving force behind this, since they're EOLing the Nest app, but this is inducing an insane amount of completely unnecessary e-waste. Worse, there's no communication on if my Nest door locks will work with the new system. And I frankly really like how small the Nest Guard is. The ADT new hub looms like some monstrous obelisk. How do you work for years and still produce a new line of products this much worse than what you're replacing?

26 points by judge2020 4y ago

mikece 4y ago

Google kills another product... I thought this was expected, not news.

mathgeek 4y ago
The news today is that the existing prouducts will no longer function. The actual product line was discontinued in 2021.
waynesonfire 4y ago
i think this comment is more annoying than google killing products.

metadat 4y ago

I'm thinking of holding off on purchasing any more Google hardware from now on. The volume of the ongoing stream of e-waste doesn't feel good. I just threw away 4 Chromecast Ultras a few weeks ago because they are slow as hell these days, totally useless to me.

xamde 4y ago
As a counterpoint, our even older Chromecast Audio devices keep on trucking just fine.
cbeley 4y ago
What is slow about them? I've never had issues with my ultra and frequently stream 4K HDR content. I have not found a good reason to upgrade to Google TV and prefer the cast-only behavior. I do have it connected to Ethernet though. Also, some services' casting implementations are less than ideal though.

nonfamous 4y ago

Also Dropcam and Works with Nest. This may be a better link to share: https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Blog/An-update-for-our-Nest-Secure-Dropcam-and-Works-with-Nest-Users-and/ba-p/391449 https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Blog/An-update-for-ou...

lloydatkinson 4y ago

It's just funny at this point

cwilkes 4y ago

General Motors’ teaming up with Google is going to backfire in a couple of years when Google gets bored of that market. You won’t be able to sell a used car that comes with a non-working entertainment system. Maybe there’s a play in there to make an aftermarket system that will still function. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/business/gm-apple-play-evs https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/business/gm-apple-play-evs

lapetitejort 4y ago

I am one of those crazies who's been using Nest Secure for perhaps five years now. After getting annoyed with having to arm and disarm it, it now just acts as a bridge for the door sensors and Yale locks. The door sensors I can live without, but I hope I don't have to buy the $70 Nest Connect in order to keep using the locks. I'm not going to get the ADT bundle, so I can use part of the $200 Google Store credit. But that could have gone towards a phone discount!

judge2020 4y ago
Were you able to get the discount yet? The code in my email doesn't work on the store, and when I asked support they opened an email ticket to keep me updated for when it's fixed.
- lapetitejort 4y ago
  I haven't tried yet. The discount is good until May 2024. I'll probably use it when the new Pixels launch.

disillusioned 4y ago

This is deeply annoying, not least of all because the hardware is evergreen and still works. It also is being replaced by hardware that is objectively worse: bigger, uglier, and single purpose. (I really like the combo motion sensor and door sensor from Nest.) Why on earth Google can't rewrite the Nest Secure firmware to use ADT, I do not understand. Or why they can't persist support for it indefinitely. I understand they didn't want to migrate it's functionality into the Google Home app, which is the driving force behind this, since they're EOLing the Nest app, but this is inducing an insane amount of completely unnecessary e-waste. Worse, there's no communication on if my Nest door locks will work with the new system. And I frankly really like how small the Nest Guard is. The ADT new hub looms like some monstrous obelisk. How do you work for years and still produce a new line of products this much worse than what you're replacing?