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There's a good chance that if FB is the only sign-in option, I will immediately close the window and never use your service. It's pretty much an insta-bounce fo

There's a good chance that if FB is the only sign-in option, I will immediately close the window and never use your service. It's pretty much an insta-bounce for me for the exact reasons cited in the article.

jdp23 15y ago
Ditto. Sure, a lot of people prefer the convenience of being able to log in without creating another account and password, and will just click okay without looking at how many privileges the app is asking for; so having a FB (and Twitter and Google and ...) login option can streamline things for them. But when that's the only option you're going to lose a big chunk of your potential users right off the bat.
alttag 15y ago
Me too, because I don't have a FB account. I actively avoid one. I'm being excluded from marketing campaigns, contests, and give-aways because I don't trust FB with my privacy.
- lean 15y ago
  >I don't trust FB with my privacy. Then open an account, and don't upload private info to them?
- tesseractive 15y ago
  I have a pseudonymous Facebook account with no one friended and no personally identifying information that I keep around basically just for using services that expect me to have a Facebook account.
  - pavel_lishin 15y ago
    You should probably be running something like Ghostery as well.
  - Drbble 15y ago
    Run it in a private browsing window as well, with session-only cookies.
SatvikBeri 15y ago
Has anyone run some A/B tests and gotten stats on how different subscription rates are with multiple log in options? I'm curious as to exactly how much it matters.
- Blocks8 15y ago
  gtrot.com started with Facebook-Connect login only. We didn't allow any access into the site unless you created account. The primary reason for this was that we used Facebook data to show you where your friends lived, where they've been and allowed you to connect with them on gtrot (through Facebook) so there was no "empty room" feeling when you started. With our latest updates in November, we allowed a 'generic view' --- a user can search what's happening in a city without logging in. We've put in educational messaging and explain why the Facebook connect is important to being able to personalize results. Based on what you like, what your friends like, where you've been, where they've been etc. The data is core to the experience, but some people still don't want to give access to Facebook. We did, however, see our bounce rate cut in half when we provided a generic view. Customers were spending more time on the site (upward of 5 minutes) and even returning to use the site without the account. I think the key is giving clarity, but this is a topic we've gone back and forth on as we don't think we can deliver on our promise of 'personalized advice in any city' without having the Facebook basis. We'll be changing this over time but for now, it's generic or Facebook account.
  - palish 15y ago
    Why not let users use a fake Facebook account until they're convinced your site is good?
    - Blocks8 15y ago
      That's an interesting idea. Kind of like a ghost account? Or what if you logged in with email only and then auto-followed the founder/popular members so you still get rich, person-centric advice?
  - JulianMiller520 15y ago
gallamine 15y ago
I have FB blocked on my research computer from 9AM - 5PM. If I come across a site like this during the day, then I can't singn-up or login, so I usually head away quickly.
- alexchamberlain 15y ago
  That's a shame. I really think IT ops should learn to trust their employees and only when that is broken, managers should decide how and when it is appropriate to block such sites.
  - roopeshv 15y ago
    He said, he blocks it, no the IT ops
    - prof_hobart 15y ago
      He actually said that he had it blocked - that could easily be read to mean that he blocked it or someone else blocked it.
sshrin 15y ago
Would a google (oauth) login in additon to Facebook connect solve the problem for most users OR is it necessary to also have an option to register an account?
barry-cotter 15y ago
And I live in China and don't have a proxy. At least let me use Google or Yahoo or something.

jdp23 15y ago

Ditto. Sure, a lot of people prefer the convenience of being able to log in without creating another account and password, and will just click okay without looking at how many privileges the app is asking for; so having a FB (and Twitter and Google and ...) login option can streamline things for them. But when that's the only option you're going to lose a big chunk of your potential users right off the bat.

alttag 15y ago

Me too, because I don't have a FB account. I actively avoid one. I'm being excluded from marketing campaigns, contests, and give-aways because I don't trust FB with my privacy.

lean 15y ago
>I don't trust FB with my privacy. Then open an account, and don't upload private info to them?
tesseractive 15y ago
I have a pseudonymous Facebook account with no one friended and no personally identifying information that I keep around basically just for using services that expect me to have a Facebook account.
- pavel_lishin 15y ago
  You should probably be running something like Ghostery as well.
- Drbble 15y ago
  Run it in a private browsing window as well, with session-only cookies.

SatvikBeri 15y ago

Has anyone run some A/B tests and gotten stats on how different subscription rates are with multiple log in options? I'm curious as to exactly how much it matters.

Blocks8 15y ago
gtrot.com started with Facebook-Connect login only. We didn't allow any access into the site unless you created account. The primary reason for this was that we used Facebook data to show you where your friends lived, where they've been and allowed you to connect with them on gtrot (through Facebook) so there was no "empty room" feeling when you started. With our latest updates in November, we allowed a 'generic view' --- a user can search what's happening in a city without logging in. We've put in educational messaging and explain why the Facebook connect is important to being able to personalize results. Based on what you like, what your friends like, where you've been, where they've been etc. The data is core to the experience, but some people still don't want to give access to Facebook. We did, however, see our bounce rate cut in half when we provided a generic view. Customers were spending more time on the site (upward of 5 minutes) and even returning to use the site without the account. I think the key is giving clarity, but this is a topic we've gone back and forth on as we don't think we can deliver on our promise of 'personalized advice in any city' without having the Facebook basis. We'll be changing this over time but for now, it's generic or Facebook account.
- palish 15y ago
  Why not let users use a fake Facebook account until they're convinced your site is good?
  - Blocks8 15y ago
    That's an interesting idea. Kind of like a ghost account? Or what if you logged in with email only and then auto-followed the founder/popular members so you still get rich, person-centric advice?
- JulianMiller520 15y ago

gallamine 15y ago

I have FB blocked on my research computer from 9AM - 5PM. If I come across a site like this during the day, then I can't singn-up or login, so I usually head away quickly.

alexchamberlain 15y ago
That's a shame. I really think IT ops should learn to trust their employees and only when that is broken, managers should decide how and when it is appropriate to block such sites.
- roopeshv 15y ago
  He said, he blocks it, no the IT ops
  - prof_hobart 15y ago
    He actually said that he had it blocked - that could easily be read to mean that he blocked it or someone else blocked it.

sshrin 15y ago

Would a google (oauth) login in additon to Facebook connect solve the problem for most users OR is it necessary to also have an option to register an account?

barry-cotter 15y ago

And I live in China and don't have a proxy. At least let me use Google or Yahoo or something.