4 ms·

> the tech war is over and we won Excuse me? I've just evaluated all possible virtual hosting services, and by far the best is in Germany. I know dozens of pe

by pestaa 15y ago

> the tech war is over and we won Excuse me? I've just evaluated all possible virtual hosting services, and by far the best is in Germany. I know dozens of people who hate the US passionately because of high-horse comments like yours.

angersock 15y ago
I would be curious to know which service that is, and what boxen they run, and what company made those boxen. In hindsight I realize that probably just opened the door to a pissing match over whose contributions to software/computing/startup culture is greater, but I think that would be an interesting conversation to have here. EDIT: To get the ball rolling, we've got Matsumoto : Ruby : Japan Ericsson: Erlang : Sweden Torvalds : Linux : Finland
- pedrolll 15y ago
  I don't think this will turn into a pissing contest. Hacker News comments are usually pretty insightful. Arguing over whether Europe as a continent or the U.S. as a country is better in some respects is just useless.
  - reinhardt 15y ago
    Especially useless when the "argument" boils down to a single famous individual (or even a handful) that happens to hail from a given country or continent.
- pestaa 15y ago
  You probably understand why it would be immature to compare continents. It's anyway getting harder to really get to the bottom of it as lots of engineer and scientists were taken to the US in the last century to work on those boxes. But ultimately there are no sides to take, and that is why "US already won the tech war" comments piss people off, and rightfully so.
  - angersock 15y ago
    ...and if there are no sides to take, it hardly matters whether or not the startup news on HN happens to be mostly in the geographic bounds of an upstart colony of the British Empire, now does it? And if that is the case, if we are indeed this sisterhood/brotherhood without nation or creed other than the desire to do work, surely it makes more sense that we address underrepresentation in our community here instead of balkanizing across the net?
- toyg 15y ago
  Better: Electricity | Gilbert/Galvani/Volta | Europe Telephone | whoever you believe this week | Europe + USA Computers | VonNeumann / Turing working in USA | Europe + USA Internet | DARPA | USA Web | CERN | Europe Game, set... and match. (it's all a joke, of course. Just be a sport, will you?)
  - angersock 15y ago
    ( of course, my good sir or madam! :) clearly the best things--modern internet for example--are the result of collaboration without regard to nation of origin ) Well, to be fair, let us also count things the US did wrong: C++ | Bell Labs | USA XML | IBM | USA UML | IBM | USA SOAP | Microsoft | USA IE6 | Microsoft | USA GPL | Stallman | USA Visual Basic | Microsoft | USA gcc | Stallman | USA CORBA | Object Management Group | USA

by pestaa 15y ago

angersock 15y ago

I would be curious to know which service that is, and what boxen they run, and what company made those boxen. In hindsight I realize that probably just opened the door to a pissing match over whose contributions to software/computing/startup culture is greater, but I think that would be an interesting conversation to have here. EDIT: To get the ball rolling, we've got Matsumoto : Ruby : Japan Ericsson: Erlang : Sweden Torvalds : Linux : Finland

pedrolll 15y ago
I don't think this will turn into a pissing contest. Hacker News comments are usually pretty insightful. Arguing over whether Europe as a continent or the U.S. as a country is better in some respects is just useless.
- reinhardt 15y ago
  Especially useless when the "argument" boils down to a single famous individual (or even a handful) that happens to hail from a given country or continent.
pestaa 15y ago
You probably understand why it would be immature to compare continents. It's anyway getting harder to really get to the bottom of it as lots of engineer and scientists were taken to the US in the last century to work on those boxes. But ultimately there are no sides to take, and that is why "US already won the tech war" comments piss people off, and rightfully so.
- angersock 15y ago
  ...and if there are no sides to take, it hardly matters whether or not the startup news on HN happens to be mostly in the geographic bounds of an upstart colony of the British Empire, now does it? And if that is the case, if we are indeed this sisterhood/brotherhood without nation or creed other than the desire to do work, surely it makes more sense that we address underrepresentation in our community here instead of balkanizing across the net?
toyg 15y ago
Better: Electricity | Gilbert/Galvani/Volta | Europe Telephone | whoever you believe this week | Europe + USA Computers | VonNeumann / Turing working in USA | Europe + USA Internet | DARPA | USA Web | CERN | Europe Game, set... and match. (it's all a joke, of course. Just be a sport, will you?)
- angersock 15y ago
  ( of course, my good sir or madam! :) clearly the best things--modern internet for example--are the result of collaboration without regard to nation of origin ) Well, to be fair, let us also count things the US did wrong: C++ | Bell Labs | USA XML | IBM | USA UML | IBM | USA SOAP | Microsoft | USA IE6 | Microsoft | USA GPL | Stallman | USA Visual Basic | Microsoft | USA gcc | Stallman | USA CORBA | Object Management Group | USA