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>"a warmongering country lead by an autocrat, that having invaded several countries in recent years (Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria)" Chechnya is part of Ru
by FpUser 4y ago
>"a warmongering country lead by an autocrat, that having invaded several countries in recent years (Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria)"
Chechnya is part of Russia. Country can not invade itself. It can commit atrocities against their own and this is what Russia did during the war. This happened because Chechnya tried to secede. Unilateral secession of the region will not be appreciated in any country and will likely lead to internal war and this is what did happen.
In Syria Russia was invited by their official government. You might not like the government and for good reasons but it is irrelevant. Btw what legal basis other countries have being in Syria?
Try doing a bit of fact checking when posting.
And while you bitch about Germany - The US and Canada for example had industry / manufacturing largely destroyed by moving it to China. If for example China disappears tomorrow we are fucked big time for a while. Not sure how long it'll take to restore our independence from 3rd world manufacturing. It is general trait - if companies can earn extra buck doing something they would do it no matter what unless stopped by Government (which they largely own).
- medo-bear 4y agosir you are espousing russian propaganda. please report to the nearest hollywood reeducation camp when thinking about syria please remember that ASSAD MUST GO
- hydrok9 4y agoChechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire, then declared independence after the dissolution of said Empire, then was reconquered by the Soviets. Same as happened to Ukraine. Same as happened to Georgia. And yes, no real difference from Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc.' If those places wanted to secede, and the US bombed them flat, would many be supportive of the US "legal right" to do so?
- FpUser 4y ago>"Chechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire" If you want to go that far come back to me when you return California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming to Mexico. And this is a beef just between 2 countries. There are many more. Besides nobody gives a fuck about your "not really". What matters is what is recognized by the other countries and they accept Chechnya being part of Russia
- hydrok9 4y agoI do include those. They are all part of the same state-building playbook. Although really, those states were taken from the indigenous people, by Mexico. Chechnyans and their ancestors ARE the indigenous people of the area. No, that doesn't matter. It's still an occupation. Many people in the Caucasus gave and do give a "flying fuck."
- FpUser 4y agoCan you please name me a country that did not conquer / occupy anything and hence according to your rules has the right to exist?
- hydrok9 4y agoThat wasn't the question. Where did i say Russia has no right to exist? Nowhere. I said Chechnya is not "Russia". None of the Caucasus were Russian before they were conquered by Russia. They then declared independence and were reconquered. That is why there was an insurgency in Chechnya, and why there was a military campaign against it by the Russian state, and why they installed a strongman afterwards who has been loyal to Putin since. It's also why they campaigned in Georgia, and in Ukraine, and why all the ex-USSR states are convinced that they are targets.
- FpUser 4y ago>"That wasn't the question. Where did i say Russia has no right to exist? Nowhere. I said Chechnya is not "Russia"" Your logic seems to be completely twisted. Good luck. I've lost interest to this conversation.
- hydrok9 4y agoIt is not. Russia would exist without Chechnya just fine. They have 0 legitimate reason to be there. Non-Russian people have lived in the Caucasus since before Russians even existed as an ethnicity. You've lost interest in the conversation because you are emotional and don't want to be wrong.