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What makes it fast, and is GitHub not fast enough? Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s?

oblio 4y ago
I'm guessing the Golang implementation and probably a smaller team working on the frontend? GitHub is perceptibly slower than Codeberg, just open 2 tab side by side and try them out.
- amoerie 4y ago
  Codeberg being faster might be a side effect of not being very popular yet.
dboreham 4y ago
> such a blatant clone of GitHub’s? I'm guessing for the same reason all cars have the steering wheel and turn signal switch in roughly the same place.
- Kwpolska 4y ago
  BitBucket and GitLab are more distinct and have made different decisions in some places, for better or worse. Forgejo is just a clone of GitHub with slightly different colors.
  - silverwind 4y ago
    Gitlab's design is actually based on BitBucket which came 6 years earlier.
    - richardwhiuk 4y ago
      GitLab's design at one point was just a copy and paste of GitHub's entire UI. Their URL design is heavily based on GitHubs. e.g. https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06/GitLab-project-creation.png https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06... / https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06/GitLab.png https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06...
      - silverwind 4y ago
        Interesting history. Seems they were influenced by both.
        richardwhiuk 4y ago
        I'm not sure how that's your conclusion.
zemo 4y ago
> Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s? because their project goal is to iterate on the ownership model, not to iterate on the web design. I use a self-hosted forgejo instance now (as of like, a week ago, let's see if I stick with it haha). I like GitHub the piece of software just fine, but I don't like the idea of my code training copilot. I think the design of GitHub is fine and people already know it, so I like that. If the reason you would want to not use GitHub is the design, gitea or forgejo will probably not be to your liking.
jraph 4y ago
> such a blatant clone of GitHub It's not a bad thing per se. GitHub has an okay interface, why not copy the good parts instead of reinventing the wheel for the sake of it?
jolheiser 4y ago
We (Gitea) inherited the UI from Gogs, and iirc the UI choice was partially because Gogs was a one man show and partially because a familiar interface eases transition from GitHub. We have talked about UI refreshes over the years, but it would be a huge undertaking while also keeping up with the rapid iteration.
akkartik 4y ago
I mirror my repos to a bunch of services, and I've personally found `git push` to be much slower on codeforge than most places. I suspect they're having some short-lived scaling issues (that I am totally sympathetic to)

oblio 4y ago

I'm guessing the Golang implementation and probably a smaller team working on the frontend? GitHub is perceptibly slower than Codeberg, just open 2 tab side by side and try them out.

amoerie 4y ago
Codeberg being faster might be a side effect of not being very popular yet.

dboreham 4y ago

> such a blatant clone of GitHub’s? I'm guessing for the same reason all cars have the steering wheel and turn signal switch in roughly the same place.

Kwpolska 4y ago
BitBucket and GitLab are more distinct and have made different decisions in some places, for better or worse. Forgejo is just a clone of GitHub with slightly different colors.
- silverwind 4y ago
  Gitlab's design is actually based on BitBucket which came 6 years earlier.
  - richardwhiuk 4y ago
    GitLab's design at one point was just a copy and paste of GitHub's entire UI. Their URL design is heavily based on GitHubs. e.g. https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06/GitLab-project-creation.png https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06... / https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06/GitLab.png https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/06...
    - silverwind 4y ago
      Interesting history. Seems they were influenced by both.
      - richardwhiuk 4y ago
        I'm not sure how that's your conclusion.

zemo 4y ago

> Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s? because their project goal is to iterate on the ownership model, not to iterate on the web design. I use a self-hosted forgejo instance now (as of like, a week ago, let's see if I stick with it haha). I like GitHub the piece of software just fine, but I don't like the idea of my code training copilot. I think the design of GitHub is fine and people already know it, so I like that. If the reason you would want to not use GitHub is the design, gitea or forgejo will probably not be to your liking.

jraph 4y ago

> such a blatant clone of GitHub It's not a bad thing per se. GitHub has an okay interface, why not copy the good parts instead of reinventing the wheel for the sake of it?

jolheiser 4y ago

We (Gitea) inherited the UI from Gogs, and iirc the UI choice was partially because Gogs was a one man show and partially because a familiar interface eases transition from GitHub. We have talked about UI refreshes over the years, but it would be a huge undertaking while also keeping up with the rapid iteration.

akkartik 4y ago

I mirror my repos to a bunch of services, and I've personally found `git push` to be much slower on codeforge than most places. I suspect they're having some short-lived scaling issues (that I am totally sympathetic to)