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It's unfortunate that the attempt by companies to make people associate cookie popups with GDPR has worked. Understanding the data you collect, why you are col

It's unfortunate that the attempt by companies to make people associate cookie popups with GDPR has worked. Understanding the data you collect, why you are collecting it, what you are using it for and what the risks are if the data is leaked is unsurprisingly a useful thing to do as a business.

Puts 4y ago
Especially since the old cookie banner law was abolished with GDPR. The whole cookie banner thing has technically nothing to do with GDPR and is the industries own perverted invention for "getting consent".
- privacylawthrow 4y ago
  This is not true. The national implementation of the ePrivacy Directive are still law. You are correct that GDPR does not require cookie banners, but the law that does was not replaced by GDPR and remains in effect.
ownagefool 4y ago
I would argue it's not useful to the business, which is why, ignoring the societal problems caused by business is often the default and why we need the regulation. In the UK, current news cycle is about sewage being dumped on our beaches by water companies that were previously privitised.
- lwhi 4y ago
  It's useful to the business as soon as they're forced to be responsible.
python999 4y ago
> attempt by companies to make people associate cookie popups with GDPR I think GDPR is generally good for individuals and the internet but if someone hates cookie banners, isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? Why can’t websites accept a special header which automatically accepts all cookies? I would enable it and handle clearing/retaining cookies myself through a browser feature/extension.
- the8472 4y ago
  > but if someone hates cookie banners, isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? No, blame companies that set cookies for merely reading a website and then bothering users about it. They have a choice, they choose to make it obnoxious.
- hgsgm 4y ago
  Your plan is what what maybe 3% of the population wants. It's a good idea, but it's not a solution to the issue. You can already handle this yourself with a browser extension to click the consent buttons.
  - xp84 4y ago
    I use those. They work on about 10% of sites, because there are about 1,000 vendors of "cookie consent modals" so nothing about them is standardized. Also, none of them that I've seen actually do anything, since "blocking all cookies set by 72 different adtech scripts loaded before and after you init" is not a real thing that Javascript snippets can even do. While most adtech snippets do have APIs to carefully pass in the user's GDPR prefs, most people don't wire them up, or even knows what order the various scripts load.
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  > isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? I could be wrong but IIRC cookie banners predate gdpr.
  - MereInterest 4y ago
    There’s a lot of conflation between the 2003 EU Cookie Directive, and the GDPR. The cookie directives specified a technical means (“cookies”) and actions that needed to be taken in order to use them. The GDPR specifies the ends (collecting and/or processing personal information) and the conditions (explicit and freely given consent), stating that anything achieving those ends must meet the conditions. It’s a much better written law than the 2003 Cookie Directive, because it avoids the need to irritate users for legitimate use cases, while also preventing legal loopholes (e.g. “We didn’t use a cookie, just the browser’s localStorage feature.”)

Puts 4y ago

Especially since the old cookie banner law was abolished with GDPR. The whole cookie banner thing has technically nothing to do with GDPR and is the industries own perverted invention for "getting consent".

privacylawthrow 4y ago
This is not true. The national implementation of the ePrivacy Directive are still law. You are correct that GDPR does not require cookie banners, but the law that does was not replaced by GDPR and remains in effect.

ownagefool 4y ago

I would argue it's not useful to the business, which is why, ignoring the societal problems caused by business is often the default and why we need the regulation. In the UK, current news cycle is about sewage being dumped on our beaches by water companies that were previously privitised.

lwhi 4y ago
It's useful to the business as soon as they're forced to be responsible.

python999 4y ago

> attempt by companies to make people associate cookie popups with GDPR I think GDPR is generally good for individuals and the internet but if someone hates cookie banners, isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? Why can’t websites accept a special header which automatically accepts all cookies? I would enable it and handle clearing/retaining cookies myself through a browser feature/extension.

the8472 4y ago
> but if someone hates cookie banners, isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? No, blame companies that set cookies for merely reading a website and then bothering users about it. They have a choice, they choose to make it obnoxious.
hgsgm 4y ago
Your plan is what what maybe 3% of the population wants. It's a good idea, but it's not a solution to the issue. You can already handle this yourself with a browser extension to click the consent buttons.
- xp84 4y ago
  I use those. They work on about 10% of sites, because there are about 1,000 vendors of "cookie consent modals" so nothing about them is standardized. Also, none of them that I've seen actually do anything, since "blocking all cookies set by 72 different adtech scripts loaded before and after you init" is not a real thing that Javascript snippets can even do. While most adtech snippets do have APIs to carefully pass in the user's GDPR prefs, most people don't wire them up, or even knows what order the various scripts load.
School-Cotton 4y ago
> isn’t it fair to place the blame on GDPR? I could be wrong but IIRC cookie banners predate gdpr.
- MereInterest 4y ago
  There’s a lot of conflation between the 2003 EU Cookie Directive, and the GDPR. The cookie directives specified a technical means (“cookies”) and actions that needed to be taken in order to use them. The GDPR specifies the ends (collecting and/or processing personal information) and the conditions (explicit and freely given consent), stating that anything achieving those ends must meet the conditions. It’s a much better written law than the 2003 Cookie Directive, because it avoids the need to irritate users for legitimate use cases, while also preventing legal loopholes (e.g. “We didn’t use a cookie, just the browser’s localStorage feature.”)