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>German industry, the driver of the EU economy is basically destroyed without cheap Russian energy. Because Germany was dumb enough to make itself energy depen

>German industry, the driver of the EU economy is basically destroyed without cheap Russian energy. Because Germany was dumb enough to make itself energy dependent on gas from Russia, a warmongering country lead by an autocrat, that having invaded several countries in recent years (Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria) and supporting military separatists in various European countries (Transnistria in Moldova), and despite the US warning them several times about this risk. But chasing the sweet teat of cheap Russian gas like a dog in heat was too good too pass for German industrialists who saw only easy money, so all national security concerns went out the window despite all the warnings they got. Maybe Germans will vote better next time and realize you can't have be Europe's heavy industry nation while being non-nuclear and also energy dependent on an antagonizing adversary with expansionist tendencies.

medo-bear 4y ago
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- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Great logic bro. Ignoring your snarkiness, if you have to choose between Uncle Sam and Putin, which do you think is the better option for a stable business relationship? If you use your brain for a second, the answer is easy.
  - medo-bear 4y ago
    the eu should finance independce movements in the united states to increase competition for fair prices ↓↓ edit: this guy apparently thinks that germany had its own nukes :D learn english bro https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/nuke_2 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis... as to who owns the actual nukes in germany ... well we know the answer to that. the question, is what are they doing so far from home
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      ^This guy thinks that "shutting down nukes" means nuclear weapons. Bro, nukes means nuclear powerplants. And be snarky all you want, but the US didn't force Germany shut down their nukes, they did that to themselves, and the US didn't force Germany to get buddy-buddy with the Putin autocrat, but the contrary. This kind of ignorance is why we're in this mess in the first place. Your leaders make bad decisions and you simp for them and then somehow blame the US.
FpUser 4y ago
>"a warmongering country lead by an autocrat, that having invaded several countries in recent years (Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria)" Chechnya is part of Russia. Country can not invade itself. It can commit atrocities against their own and this is what Russia did during the war. This happened because Chechnya tried to secede. Unilateral secession of the region will not be appreciated in any country and will likely lead to internal war and this is what did happen. In Syria Russia was invited by their official government. You might not like the government and for good reasons but it is irrelevant. Btw what legal basis other countries have being in Syria? Try doing a bit of fact checking when posting. And while you bitch about Germany - The US and Canada for example had industry / manufacturing largely destroyed by moving it to China. If for example China disappears tomorrow we are fucked big time for a while. Not sure how long it'll take to restore our independence from 3rd world manufacturing. It is general trait - if companies can earn extra buck doing something they would do it no matter what unless stopped by Government (which they largely own).
- medo-bear 4y ago
  sir you are espousing russian propaganda. please report to the nearest hollywood reeducation camp when thinking about syria please remember that ASSAD MUST GO
- hydrok9 4y ago
  Chechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire, then declared independence after the dissolution of said Empire, then was reconquered by the Soviets. Same as happened to Ukraine. Same as happened to Georgia. And yes, no real difference from Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc.' If those places wanted to secede, and the US bombed them flat, would many be supportive of the US "legal right" to do so?
  - FpUser 4y ago
    >"Chechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire" If you want to go that far come back to me when you return California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming to Mexico. And this is a beef just between 2 countries. There are many more. Besides nobody gives a fuck about your "not really". What matters is what is recognized by the other countries and they accept Chechnya being part of Russia

medo-bear 4y ago

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ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Great logic bro. Ignoring your snarkiness, if you have to choose between Uncle Sam and Putin, which do you think is the better option for a stable business relationship? If you use your brain for a second, the answer is easy.
- medo-bear 4y ago
  the eu should finance independce movements in the united states to increase competition for fair prices ↓↓ edit: this guy apparently thinks that germany had its own nukes :D learn english bro https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/nuke_2 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis... as to who owns the actual nukes in germany ... well we know the answer to that. the question, is what are they doing so far from home
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    ^This guy thinks that "shutting down nukes" means nuclear weapons. Bro, nukes means nuclear powerplants. And be snarky all you want, but the US didn't force Germany shut down their nukes, they did that to themselves, and the US didn't force Germany to get buddy-buddy with the Putin autocrat, but the contrary. This kind of ignorance is why we're in this mess in the first place. Your leaders make bad decisions and you simp for them and then somehow blame the US.

FpUser 4y ago

>"a warmongering country lead by an autocrat, that having invaded several countries in recent years (Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria)" Chechnya is part of Russia. Country can not invade itself. It can commit atrocities against their own and this is what Russia did during the war. This happened because Chechnya tried to secede. Unilateral secession of the region will not be appreciated in any country and will likely lead to internal war and this is what did happen. In Syria Russia was invited by their official government. You might not like the government and for good reasons but it is irrelevant. Btw what legal basis other countries have being in Syria? Try doing a bit of fact checking when posting. And while you bitch about Germany - The US and Canada for example had industry / manufacturing largely destroyed by moving it to China. If for example China disappears tomorrow we are fucked big time for a while. Not sure how long it'll take to restore our independence from 3rd world manufacturing. It is general trait - if companies can earn extra buck doing something they would do it no matter what unless stopped by Government (which they largely own).

medo-bear 4y ago
sir you are espousing russian propaganda. please report to the nearest hollywood reeducation camp when thinking about syria please remember that ASSAD MUST GO
hydrok9 4y ago
Chechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire, then declared independence after the dissolution of said Empire, then was reconquered by the Soviets. Same as happened to Ukraine. Same as happened to Georgia. And yes, no real difference from Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc.' If those places wanted to secede, and the US bombed them flat, would many be supportive of the US "legal right" to do so?
- FpUser 4y ago
  >"Chechnya is not really "part of" Russia. It was conquered by the Empire" If you want to go that far come back to me when you return California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming to Mexico. And this is a beef just between 2 countries. There are many more. Besides nobody gives a fuck about your "not really". What matters is what is recognized by the other countries and they accept Chechnya being part of Russia